We Ask Our LIVE Listeners How Hypnosis Has Impacted Them

What if meaningful change didn’t turn you into someone else—but finally let you be you? We dive into the real mechanics of hypnosis through raw personal stories, client breakthroughs, and a simple method that makes visions tangible. From anxiety and sleepless nights to the quiet confidence of self-trust, this conversation traces how focused attention, ethical guidance, and clear intention can shift the way you think, feel, and act in everyday life.

We unpack the biggest myth first: hypnosis isn’t mind control. You set the goals, you keep the steering wheel, and your mind does what it’s wired to do when it feels safe—learn. One host shares starting hypnosis to unblock a long-delayed book, only to discover deeper fear-of-self patterns and the relief that came from resolving them. Another recounts a two-hour first session of tears, a lighter next day, and using self-hypnosis to reduce reliance on sleep meds. Listeners weigh in with their own arcs: hip pain that faded while healing past trauma, managers and partners noticing happier, steadier versions of them, and the moment negative self-talk became audible—and changeable.

We also explore a favorite tool: the “perfect day” process. By answering dozens of concrete questions—who’s there, what it smells like, how your body feels—you create a sensory-rich blueprint and rehearse it in trance. One listener kept returning to the audio and watched life align, step by surprising step, with a long-shot dream: a log cabin by the water, rooms filled with quilts, and a daily rhythm that finally felt right. Whether your lens is practical or spiritual, the outcome converges: more choice, less fear, and a mind that works for you instead of against you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

We are on the line.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Yes. And it almost feels like spring. I woke up this morning. I shouldn't say I woke up this morning. I woke up in the middle of the night. I couldn't get back to sleep because it just feels too much like spring. Maybe I worked out too hard yesterday. Maybe I'm eating too much chocolate. I don't know. But I was sort of wide awake at 2:30 and my mind was just going. And I even thought at one point about just getting up.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Yeah, he's experiencing the menopause.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

I'm well through that. Anyway, it's a beautiful day. If you're like overcast, it's a gorgeous day. I feel like minus one.

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And yeah, I went outside just in my to feed the birds. I didn't even put on a coat.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Kind of nice, eh?

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

So spring is coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Yep. Absolutely. We are recording, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

We're in kind of a reflective space this morning. We're sitting thinking about podcast topics and what's been successful and and what what we seem to get positive feedback on. And I think people are still really curious about hypnosis. I think that there's a lot of people who listen to us and find the topic really interesting and find the ideas really interesting and have still some reticence about engaging in hypnosis, engaging in the experience. You know, I met with a a new client yesterday, and she was like, oh, and doing all the sort of typical things. I don't know if I could be hypnotized. I don't know that I could relax that much. And and it just makes me smile, you know, that we could be we could be so sure that we want to make change and still so intimidated by it.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

So much sort of funny little fears of our own self.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Yeah, I've I've had clients uh kind of scared of changing, right? Who am I gonna be? And if it's that fast, who am I gonna be in the next few weeks? And they they go through with it and they make changes. Sometimes those changes, yeah, really involve a big change in their life, and sometimes it's really subtle.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

But they don't say that they changed, they say that they've become more of themselves, right? It's not like I'm I'm different, it's more like I am me now when before I didn't feel like I could be.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Yes. And as you can imagine, sometimes that's hard for the people around us. So can I make the joke? Can I make the joke that we have with the our plans, our hypnosis plans?

Does Hypnosis Change Who You Are

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Well, people, you know, people come to us because they are very, very clear in their own mind that their life is not satisfying them. Yeah, that there's things in their life that aren't satisfying them. And we have one friend who who got into hypnosis, and because he had other friends who had been through hypnosis, he he made a joke. And his joke was Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Are you on the divorce plan in hypnosis?

SPEAKER_00 3:48

And it happens that you know, from time to time we'll have a client that is so dissatisfied with their life as it is, yeah, that they insist that it changes. And sometimes that results in, you know, parting ways with friends and family and moving in the direction they want to go rather than staying in a situation that doesn't work for them. And although never do we enter into hypnosis with any of our intentions, you know, it's not our business what you do with your circle of friends and the people you love at the same time, it is completely your right to be who you are.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Yeah. Yeah, we never say you're gonna get the war.

Client Fears And Life Shifts

First-Person Journey Into Hypnosis

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Well, and he just he was on that that joke because a friend of his was uh was getting hypnosis, and that was the direction they went. Yeah, and they were, you know, as a couple actually doing hypnosis, and they were actually finding themselves getting closer. Yeah, and so it's it's really interesting how it can go. But so let's so the topic today is what have I learned from my experience with hypnosis? And we all have different experiences, and we've asked a couple of our regular audience members to to consider this too, to consider that question. And we're gonna we're going to uh let them sort of offer their thoughts on this question. You know, what what has hypnosis meant to me? What has it what has it generated in me? I have engaged the process of hypnosis, and what have I learned from that? And so I'll go first. And I'll go first by saying I engaged hypnosis for the first time over 20 years ago. I was, in hindsight, intensely dissatisfied with myself. I was confused about who I was and shocked by how afraid I was of myself. I had never thought of myself as fearful, and then I realized I was deeply afraid of myself. And I didn't want to be, and I wanted to be a better version of myself, and I wanted to live more dynamically, and so I engaged, you know, with the goal of writing this damn book that I had been carrying around since I was 23. In my mind, I wanted to write it and get it done, and I went with that excuse to go get hypnosis. I had uh six sessions with Peggy. I experienced three past lives finding the sources of the stuff I was carrying around. And that will be my first thing. The biggest, the biggest thing I learned about hypnosis is it doesn't change you, it augments you, it doesn't make you a different person, it makes you more of who you are. Yeah, and it also helps you get comfortable with that, it helps you to expand, and I'm still on that journey, and I'm still working on that, and I feel like I may never be done with it, and my self-hypnosis practice is still focused on that. And you know, the universe keeps bringing me clients that are working on very similar things to help me, but that's that's probably the first thing I would suggest to you this that hypnosis doesn't change you, it makes you more of who you really are.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Yeah, it sort of lifts the fog.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

Yeah, there's a million dynamics in it, but I'll offer that first.

Anxiety, Sleep, And Self-Hypnosis

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Yeah. Yeah, so drop in the chat uh how has it helped you? How has it changed you? And while they're doing that, while you guys are doing that, I'll I'll explain my how I got into hypnosis or how uh sorry, how it has has helped me. So I got into hypnosis before I trained in hypnosis, I got into hypnosis because of some serious anxiety issues I was having. And and I went to Peggy and she really helped me. And my first session was about two hours of non-stop crying. And I I feel like the next day I felt just light as a feather. And and then a couple years passed, a few years passed, and I had graduated college and was working, you know, doing the corporate thing. And I wound up with just this crazy sleeping issue. And so then I did bits and pieces of hypnosis to help with that sleeping issue. So I went to, I think I went to see Peggy, I went to see our friend Kenny, Les helped me, and so hypnosis sort of all came together for me. And in different ways it helped to relieve the sleeping issue. I mean, I still had it in bits and pieces over the years, but what it did do for me was it made me realize how much control I had over my mind. And I'm not, you know, saying I'm aware of that every single day, every moment, but I can I I can turn to it if I think about it. And it that just that allowed me to, you know, I was on medication and everything, but to help with it, but to let go of the medication, I I worked on my mind. I went deep into my mind and and did hypnosis. So between Peggy, Les and Kenny, yeah, I just felt better and better. And then I could during those days where I felt really good, I could really focus on self-hypnosis. And then I suppose, you know, I I trained in hypnosis because I I wanted to do something with my life because I had to let my old life go. But I now how hypnosis uh it's expanded my world so much since training, helping others, knowing that I can tap into something else, you know, guide, guidance, my higher self, and just channel through what people need, I think, and connecting with their higher self in a sense and channeling through. So anyway, yeah, that's that's I think how I got into hypnosis and what it's what it's helped me uncover. So I suppose at the base of all that is just recognizing my own power to make changes in my mind. So I'll go through what Kathy has placed in the chat. For me, just four to five months ago, I was feeling angry and irritable, and I had pain in the body. I went looking for treatment for the hip pain. I fell across hypnosis by accident and tried it out of curiosity. I never even mentioned the hip pain titlery, but through the mindful hypnosis over six to seven seven sessions, my body pain disappeared. For me, hypnosis is life-changing. I discovered I was dealing with past traumas. Excuse me. Now I see the world in color. The process is ongoing, finding your true self. And I can't type fast enough to share my entire story. Yeah, that's okay. That if you know that I have many clients, I'm sure you do too, bless, that did not come in for pain management, but through working on the past, the pain has lifted in many ways.

Unexpected Benefits And Feedback

SPEAKER_00 12:27

Yeah, yeah. Like you can't count the number of clients who, you know, because I I try to do check-ins, right? We've done a few sessions and and I've joked about this. I always say, you know, what are other people saying about you? Because that's really that's the measure of change. When other people say, Oh, you're different, that that's that's says something. But they the things that they they mention that were never part of the plan, you know, things like having lost weight, yeah, or finding that they just sleep better, or yeah, body pains, aches and pains seem to be gone, you know, more motivation, more excitement, you know, that kind of stuff. These are all side effects, and they're not what people generally come in to get hypnosis for.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Yeah. Kathy again is saying uh my manager at work has noticed a change, and so has my husband.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Good for you.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

That's beautiful.

unknown 13:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

That's beautiful. And the great thing is, you know, I really believe, right? I believe it in my heart that the process is one of unwinding all the things that get in the way of us being our true selves. And when others tell us I'm enjoying you, right? That that's what how beautiful your true self really is. Yeah. That when you can just let that out, others others want that, others appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Yeah. Yeah. It is incredible. Barb says, first of all, I wanted to, what's coming to mind is for anyone listening, we've asked our people today joining us if we can use their first names. So that's why I'm saying their first name. So Barb says, hypnosis has made changes in my life by uncovering some deeply hidden and negative self-talk that was constantly playing in the background of my mind. By finally hearing that self-talk, I was able to address it and begin to reprogram it. That process opened my heart to trusting myself, my inner voice, my inner wisdom, and believing myself when I know the truth, even when I'm being told I am wrong or mistaken, and when I am told that I'm falling into woo-woo, my confidence and belief in myself has been life-changing. Taking risks, trusting that I am always being guided, and that if I just get quiet and listen, the answers are always there for me. Yeah. I think it is about listening to yourself more.

Voices From The Chat: Kathy’s Story

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Oh my goodness. I just think that's beautiful. There, yeah, I I'm gonna say it because I I've come to believe it. There is nobody more important to trust than yourself. You should never trust outside yourself more than you trust inside yourself. Yeah. That's when you know you're being manipulated. That's when you know you're being controlled, that's when you know that the programming has taken hold, when your trust starts to become externally focused rather than internally focused. And I only say that in hindsight, because you know, I had to discover that myself, but I just really believe that you know, when you can make that shift so that you become your favorite person, you become your most trusted ally. Your mind becomes the tool you use, not to keep you scared, but to keep you safe. Yeah, you know, that is that's huge because it just changes the perspective of the world, right? Like it changes everything now. There's nothing that is not changed by that. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Rewriting Self-Talk And Trusting Yourself

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah, and if I may, uh Barb went through a perfect day, hypnosis, where yeah, yeah. If you want to put just a little bit of that in the chat, if you want to share that, that'd be wonderful. And just where it brought you, kind of thing. But yeah, hypnosis has opened up a whole world. I mean, Barb talks about woo-woo, and I'm gonna get all woo-woo for a second here. But when I first learned hypnosis, of course, you you learn how to help people with symptoms of emotions, right? Anxieties, angers, those kinds of things, limiting beliefs. And that's where you start in the hypnosis world, you mostly. But I I went down this heavily spiritual path and found myself training in all kinds of modalities. For anyone that's aware of QHHT, past life aggression, life between lives. And also, you know, the fascinating thing about where I'm at today is way before hypnosis even started for me, I became obsessed with near-death experiences. Now, near-death experiences are not like you know what falling off your surfboard and almost dying or something. Near-death experiences are basically when you code and you have an experience and then you come back. And I for some reason I was yeah, obsessed with it. Obsession.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

I want to add some clarity to that.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

It's I think what you what you said, I want to be really clear about because I think it's important for some people.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

It's not that somebody comes close to death. What it is, is they die and then they come back. You use the word code, which is what the doctors will say.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Right. Uh, but they die and then they come back. So it's not near death, it's sort of death and return.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Death, death, and return.

Clearing Myths About Mind Control

SPEAKER_00 18:43

And you're thinking, well, how the heck is that possible? Well, you know, talk to the 500,000 people on the planet today that it's happened to, and they'll tell you their story. And there's like literally thousands of stories out there of people saying, This is what happened to me. And the doctors will tell you I was dead. And some cases are dead for like 20 minutes or half an hour. So it's not like it's like, oh, maybe they didn't die. These are these are people who died and then came back.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Yeah. Yeah. And so I was, I went down the rabbit hole a bit while I was still in university college. And I thought, why in the world am I obsessed with this? Like, what's going on? And uh not long after I trained in hypnosis, I started working with near near-death experiencers, helping them reintegrate back into life, helping them understand their experience. Not that I was telling them what their experience was or what it meant, but helping them move through it again in a linear fashion and and then you know, connecting with their higher guidance and understanding it maybe a bit more if they if they needed to. So that was fascinating. And then that brought me to a whole other realm. Again, we're getting really woo-woo here, like just saying life between lives, past life regression, off-earth lives, all kinds of stuff. So it's a little out there, and but it's it's really brought me myself in my own way, in my own life, a lot of peace. Yeah. Oh, there's another one here. So from Barb, my second biggest shift has been to be able to identify the limiting beliefs that I am holding. Now I can do self-hypnosis and ask myself to take me to a time or place where that belief originated, and I can reframe it and remove the block. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

Yeah, like it's your mind. It's your mind, and with a few simple tools, you can do a lot for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

Yeah. And that's, you know, that's a beautiful commitment to yourself. All the things you can be committed to. Being committed to yourself is pretty important because it leads to everything else.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Yeah. And I think, oh, hang on a second. Kathy. Kathy says there might be some people that believe hypnosis about sorry. There might be some people that believe hypnosis is about someone controlling your thoughts or mind. It's not about that. It's about the guidance. This helps with looking at those limiting beliefs and anxieties. Yeah. I mean, we can't we can't state it enough how often how often we have people thinking that, right? That we're going to somehow control your mind. We can't. There is no, there is no Ability for us to control your mind. And first of all, we wouldn't even do that. Like it's so unethical. It's ridiculous.

How We Practice And Teach Ethically

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Yeah, thanks for saying that. Because let's let's make that really clear. You know, we are we're not just hypnotists, we're hypnosis instructors. We we uh go through the process using the National Guild of Hypnotists core training and our own additions to it to help people become hypnotists and help others using hypnosis. And of course, always there are people who have experienced hypnosis and they understand the experience and process and they want to use it to the benefit of others. And one of our core teachings is that we can all have opinions. Everybody, you know, everybody finds it easier to look at somebody else and know exactly what they need to do. Everybody finds it easy to look at somebody else and say, well, that's their problem. They need to do this. It's really easy to recognize in other people what we think they should do. And as a hypnotist, you don't do that. We we're very, very deliberate and we're very, very committed to the idea that the client is in absolute control of the hypnosis we come to us and they even have forms to fill out to tell us what their goals are. And then we focus the hypnosis work on those goals. There's lots of side effects, like we said, people lose weight, people feel better, people, you know, build better relationships. There's there's so many good things that come from addressing any issue that you face. But our clients choose what stuff we do and don't do hypnosis about. We don't choose for them. Yeah. And that's you know, that's that's honoring, I think. That's our way of honoring the autonomy of the mind.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

And we find that the mind responds really well when you honor its autonomy.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yes. Yeah, we don't uh I'm trying to think. I don't use the words, so I'm trying to think of what the words that we don't use are. But look, we're not saying like you should do this or you need to do this or anything like that.

The Perfect Day Method

SPEAKER_00 24:15

No, in fact, I I ask people when they want to quit smoking, you know, tell me on a scale of zero to ten how badly you want to quit. And until they get right up there eight, nine, and ten, I'm not interested in working with them because it's not my job to make them quit. It's their it's my job to help them quit because they've decided to quit. And sometimes people come in and they say, I just want you to make me. I want you to make me do things. And I don't do that. I I I've sent clients away, much to Hillary's chagrin. I've sent clients away because they want me to make them do something that they really don't want to do. Yeah. And and it's not, yeah, that's a line I draw.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Yeah. I've had clients say, Can't you just make wave your magic wand? Yeah. Oh my gosh. But yeah, we asked Barb a little earlier to explain this perfect day idea. And so I'll I'll go over it here. Perfect day. Wow. Quick synopsis. Lesson Hillary gave me the questions, and I really dug into them and spent a lot of time with what I wanted. The questions were, just to give a little background, the questions were a series of 50 plus questions. Yeah. Questions that asked you everything about how you would imagine your perfect day, all the way down to the feelings, the smells, the who's there, where you want to be in the world.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

I mean, it's really what you wear.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

The the very fine details.

From Vision To Cabin By The Water

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Yeah. And then from those questions, one of us, so in I think in this case it was Les, develops an audio to listen to as much as you want to listen to it, and and go into hypnosis and listen to that audio. So, okay, so I really dug into them and spent a lot of time with what I wanted, the questions. When I sent those answers to them, I never imagined it would have such a tremendous impact on my life. I received my meditation and began doing it. I was initially listening to it twice a day, then fell off for a couple months. But when I returned to it, I began to feel the changes in my life, seeing things differently and lifting the limitations in my life. So opening to that, I followed my meditation and found my life moving towards my perfect day, which was a log cabin in the woods by the water, right down to the rooms being filled with quilts and pillows. If you know me, you know that this dream seemed impossible. But because I just allowed myself to say what I wanted without any limitations, I have been led to this place in my life where I am living my perfect day. And it just gets better and brighter all the time. Yeah. I mean, it's incredible, right? And it it doesn't always happen the way that you would imagine it would happen. Right. You just have to let go of those limitations. Because if we think about that, a cabin in the woods by the water, we might be like, well, that can only happen if this happens. But if you let that go, the this can only happen if this happens or that happens, and you just allow it's amazing how the the I don't know, the universe just places these things in front of you, these doors. And if you choose to take those doors and go through them, it's amazing where that takes you in relation to the perfect day. Yeah.

Two Paths, One Insight: Choice And Spirit

Life Is Woo-Woo And Why That Matters

Mind As The Center Of Change

SPEAKER_00 28:04

So I guess if I offered my my second, you know, what have I learned as a result of my experience of hypnosis? And we've thrown the words around. Um, I would say that, you know, when I observe Hillary and her practice, you know, she and I have the the our own purposes in life, our own goals, our own interests. And hypnosis, though is common, what we use hypnosis for and who we use hypnosis with is often very different. You know, to say that Hillary's focus is woo-woo, I think is undermining the truth of it. The truth of it is that Hillary likes to use hypnosis to help people discover the broader dimensions of who they are. And I have this thing about choice and power and control. And I have a real sort of life purpose to try to help people understand that choice is the nature of our existence. It's our highest integrity. To interfere with other people's choice is wrong. To feel trapped within your life is not what you're here for. You're here to experience and exercise choice from your true self. And so for me, the people I tend to work with are those who are really feeling trapped by themselves, by their lives, by their emotions. And I'm compelled to help people feel free. But we come at it from sort of two different perspectives with two different goals, but we discover, I think, the same thing. And, you know, it's amazing how my clients get there. But I the second thing is I want to tell you that life is woo-woo. We might think that, you know, hypnosis is all woo-woo, and I don't want to get all woo-woo. And and I react to that by saying, who benefits from you denying the woo-woo of who you are? The only one that benefits are those who are making money off your commitment, your commitment to going to work every day, your commitment to structuring your life around somebody else's workplace. The only people who benefit from you giving up your woo-woo are not you. They're people who have power over you, and they're trying to get you to choose to see yourself as a body trapped in a scary world, and the best thing you can do is go to work. And I take, you know, over the years, because I've done that for so many years, and I lived it, I take real opposition to it now. Because life is woo-woo, and I'm being scientific, right? The greatest science we have today is quantum physics. And quantum physics tells you that the field collapses due to your mental interaction with it, right? This is this is science. This is cutting-edge science. Don't tell me you're scientific and then dismiss quantum physics. You know, don't tell me you're scientific about the mind and then dismiss things as placebo. For me, I get really high rate when people dismiss placebo. It's like, what do you think is working here then? Right? The only thing every scientific study focused in medicine proves that there is a placebo effect, that it exists. Human beings heal themselves with their mind in every single scientific study. And we ignore that. And I consider that to be the most unscientific thing you can do is ignore strong, consistent evidence, repeatable evidence. That's what science hangs its hat on. Look at us. We can repeat this study and get the same result over and over and over. But the one thing we get over and over and over, we're going to ignore. We're going to ignore it because we can't put it in a bottle, because we can't sell it to you. And so, Hilary and I, I believe I'm happy to sell you placebo. I'm happy to help you learn how to use your own mind to have the best life possible. I believe that life is woo-woo. And anybody who puts in the time to discover truth is going to find that there's 500,000 people on the world today who have actually died and they've actually come back. And to ignore them is to be unscientific, right? I believe very, very strongly that if you're out there and you're looking at your own mind and you start to discover inspiration, and inspiration starts to come to you, and then you want to dismiss it, dismiss it in any way, that's unscientific. That's not practical, that's not good thinking, right? I think that life is woo-woo. That other people benefit from us dismissing that woo-woo. But life is woo-woo. And when you embrace it, you can start to understand it. And when you can start to understand it, you can start to study it. You know, I'll always talk about Michael Newton, who act he's a psychiatrist who is very, very scientific. And he would use hypnosis not because he believed it was true, but because it was so therapeutic. And in that process, he learned that people actually, when they pass, they go to the life between lives. And he found that out accidentally and then decided to apply a scientific study to it. Took tens of thousands of people, taught dozens of other hypnotists how to do the technique, who then took tens of thousands of other people who have explained quite clearly the dimensions of our life between lives. This is so repeatable, it is so consistent, it's statistically significant by any measure of probabilities. It is the kind of thing that reveals to us who we really are. And so for me, hypnosis, the journey into my mind, understanding how my mind works, working with other people, journeying into their minds and understanding how their minds work, I've discovered that everything is generated from there, that the mind is the center of everything. There is nothing more important, in my view, than the way you use your mind and the thoughts that you allow to go through it, and the thoughts that you take the time to decipher and break down and find their origin, and most importantly, find their lack of value, that they're untruth, right? Life is woo-woo, and it's a whole lot of fun, and your nature is one of joy and exploration and creativity. And yes, we do a bad job of bringing that out at people, but my experience of hypnosis has been that that exists in everyone and it sits down there hidden underneath all that programming. Yeah, you know, life, yeah, life is so much bigger, more beautiful, more poetic, more colorful, more joyful than you can imagine once you get rid of the stuff that interferes with it. And so to me, yeah, what's my experience with hypnosis? My experience is that life is way more than what we think it is, and it has the potential to be glorious.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Thanks for listening to my speech.

Bigger, Brighter, More Joyful Life

SPEAKER_01 36:33

That's great. That's great. Yeah, I think just to wrap up here, Barb says, I stopped telling myself why it couldn't happen. Which, you know, is exactly what you're getting at, really. And instead just said to the universe, if this is my dream, then you have given me that dream, so it must be there for me. I love that. I love that. Les has a great way of articulating the experience. Absolutely, absolutely. He is good with words, good channeling as well. He just feels the information and speaks it. Okay. So thank you everyone for sharing your experiences.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

I should, I'm being prompted to just say if if you're interested in the perfect day, having your own meditation, it is in the school classrooms. Um it's a one-time purchase. And just reach out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, all right. And Barb says, do it. All right, we will see you later. Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

Thank you.