Coffee With Hilary and Les from State of Mind Hypnosis and Training Centre

From Earthquake To Inner Calm: How Mindful Intention And Tiny Choices Create A Ripple Effect

Hilary & Les Season 4 Episode 16

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We ride from a late-night earthquake to the deeper tremors of old beliefs, using hypnosis-informed tools to calm the body and set clear intentions. We challenge the vague “be good” script, rebuild boundaries, and show how small, present choices create real ripple effects.

• earthquake jolt as a segue into ripple effects
• mindfulness over outcome fixation
• hypnosis as a way to reframe past interpretations
• practical calm techniques for the nervous system
• present-moment intentions that are specific and doable
• unlearning the vague be good program
• boundaries and self-permission without losing kindness
• arm’s reach impact and quiet influence
• tending your inner garden to seed wider peace

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We are on the line.

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All in one piece.

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All in one piece.

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Sounded like the house was coming down.

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Yeah.

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I thought the furnace.

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Yes. Last night we had an earthquake.

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Not so here.

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Yeah.

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Good old middle Ontario, Southern Ontario.

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Yeah. Yeah, really. We are southern. We're not considered southern, but we are southern Ontario. Yeah. We had uh 11 p.m. last night. We had an earthquake up near Aurelia and we felt it here. I sort of woke out of sleep. I woke out of sleep and I'm thinking, my body's like shaking back and forth. I must be dreaming. And then I just went back and back to sleep. Meanwhile, Les is like checking the house and making sure we didn't blow up.

SPEAKER_02:

It woke me up. It was amazing though, just how life works. I had just sort of taken a deep breath and rolled over. And you know how when you roll over, you sort of come a little bit up out of sleep, but you don't wake up. Right. And I just rolled over, and all of a sudden I hear this boom, and the whole bed shakes. And so I open my eyes and then it's right there, 10 59 p.m. on the phone. And I'm like, what the heck? And yeah, my mind went straight to the furnace blew up.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. But it didn't, thank God.

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No, it ran fun. But I stayed awake to make sure it was.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, it startled me.

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Yeah. And it startled all of Ontario, well, not all of Ontario, but go on social media this morning and there it is. Everyone's talking about it.

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Earthquake. Yeah. And so this is, you know, I think we mentioned Stefan Burns yesterday.

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Yes. Yesterday.

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So yeah, this uh we're looking forward to Stefan Burns tonight. Stefan, we're sending you people.

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Yeah.

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I hope you can explain all of this. So I went back to high school geography and remembered how these kinds of seismic events reflect off the crust into the opposite side of the earth. And then you looked up seismic activity in South Indian Ocean because that's sort of the opposite side of the earth that we're on.

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Yeah, and they had an earthquake last night. It would have been early in the morning for them or morning for them. Yeah. So who knows? Maybe we figured it out. We cracked the code, but probably not.

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I just kind of wonder what the heck's going on.

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Yeah.

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But it reminds us of the ripple effect.

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Yeah. How one thing can lead to another, can ripple out to in all different ways that we're not aware of.

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Yeah, everything's connected. Yeah. Anyway, we were gonna follow up yesterday's talk on intention, right? With those four questions. I love those four questions. It's like what a gift.

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Okay.

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It's probably just because I need it so bad right now, because I don't think I'm clear on my intentions.

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Yeah.

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I'm sort of clear on what I want to stop.

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Right.

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But I'm not clear on what I want to start, I guess.

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And I think that's pretty normal, right? For people to think about it that way.

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I think that's that second question, right?

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Yeah, what has not been working?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I think the uh we know what doesn't work because it makes us feel bad or uh, you know, in ways of discomfort or frustration, frustration, negative emotion, exhaustion, tiredness, and distraction.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think that's an emotion, but um, I think it's an experience. I think distraction is really the result of some event creating your attention and creating some other emotion that pulls you away from where you are or where you want to be going.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. I think that happens with most of us. We distract ourselves. If if we've got sort of a a part of ourselves that's sabotaging what we want to be doing, then usually that sabotage looks like distraction, you know, feeling overwhelmed and then just uh, you know, turning on the TV, you know, playing games, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I think yesterday we we did a good job of sort of isolating the idea that we can get overwhelmed with doing, and we can get overwhelmed with large goals and lose how the little things we do make a difference. And more importantly, the way we do things makes a difference to us and our motivation and our our our general peacefulness. And uh part of that issue is really um a failure to be mindful, mindful in a form of intention, being clearer. And we, you know, so we want to have intention and we say things, you know, to me, it's self-talk, right? So it's you know, we say things to ourselves like I want to have a good day, or I want to be happy today, or I want to get this job done today, or I want to, you know, get this list of things accomplished today. And then it loses the mindful nature of who we are.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. In the chat, it's a perfect description of what you're saying. I tend to get lost in the end result and not enjoy the process.

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Yeah.

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And that's the living part, right? That's the part where you're living. That's the actual part that you're doing. That's the actual part that you actually have some control over in that moment. I don't think it can be said too much. You know, I think Eckhart Tolle has established a whole career around the idea. And that is, you know, the past is gone. There's nothing you can do with it. There's nothing you can do to it. You can look at it as learning, and that's the best thing you can do with it, and then let it go. The future is just imagination, and we tend to turn that into worry, using our imagination negatively, and then the present moment just passes by while we're bouncing between memory and fear, bouncing back and forth, using memory to interpret the present moment. And that's what we as hypno hypnotists are really focused on. How do we stop using the past to interpret the present? How do we stop using the past to define the present? How do we take what's in the past and resolve it so it's not active in the present? And that's the goal. That's the goal of hypnosis. I mean, people come to us because they they can't find a way to do or not do what they want to do or not do in the present moment, and they don't understand why, or they're very aware that there's something in the past interfering with that. And that is an interpretation. It's not even reality. So because it's just an interpretation, the subconscious mind can change because the subconscious mind sees it as a logical interpretation, and maybe it's not. And when the subconscious mind is open, it can see flaws in its logic, it can see inaccuracy in its thinking. It's capable of saying, Yeah, that's I know that isn't true, but I don't know what else to do.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. That makes me think of when we go into hypnosis. I hadn't really thought about it this way, surprisingly, before until you just said that. We go into hypnosis and we go into a relaxed state. Think about when you're in maybe a time of fear or not knowing what to do. And if if it comes to you to just take a deep breath and relax a little bit at least, your mind is open to understanding the situation at large, right? You're not so pinpoint, uh, you know, focused on that fear. You can actually see opportunities or how to work this out, or you know, uh how to resolve the situation. So, I mean, it's kind of the same in hypnosis, right? We go into a state of deep relaxation, and then suddenly I find it with clients all the time. I found it yesterday, uh day day before. Like suddenly they're able to see the forest for the trees, basically. That makes sense, forest for the trees.

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I think so. Yeah. Makes sense to me.

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Yeah. So yeah, I think w uh uh I think it's always a good idea if you're in a state of panic or not knowing what to do, to try your best to just take a deep breath and and calm the nervous system in ways. And then that allows for opportunities or ways of figuring it out to come to you.

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Yeah, we talked about this a few weeks ago when we talked about relaxation. And you know, somebody tells you, relax, and you go, Well, what am I how how am I supposed to do that? Right. So there's there's some really neat hacks. And I was watching Mike Mandel, who I consider to be the all-time great hypnotist, he was offering a hack that I liked. So the ones we talked about were stacking a breath. So taking a breath, then taking another breath right on top of it, and then exhaling the whole thing because it mimics crying, it mimics that releasing feeling. And if you just were to stack a breath and begin to have tears come and feel those emotions, great, because better out than in, really. Get them out, get them processed. Another way is to be aware of your peripheral vision. Go from being really focused on things to sitting quietly, breathing, and being aware of your peripheral vision. This is this is quite literally hacking your mind, hacking your brain to hack your body. Remember, all of this is connected. This is a complex. And so when you're stressed, your breath shortens, your focus tightens, your whole body turns inward. This is right here, right now, got to deal with it. And that activates the sympathetic nervous system and the cortisol flows and all kinds of things. So to take the body into the opposite state, to take your vision from focused to very general and be aware of your peripheral vision. And that starts to force your brain to function differently, to take a stacked breath, can release emotion that is built up. Mike Nandel's technique that he taught, I think is a fantastic one. Simply focus on breathing out longer than you breathe in, right? So if you breathe in for a count of four, breathe out for a count of six. Just that breathing out decreases the carbon dioxide in your system, which relaxes the system. So these are really great sort of ways. Because what's really frustrating is when our body seems to take over. When our body seems to take over in this fight or flight way, it's really hard to think. It's really hard to use your conscious mind. You know, at this point, you've traveled right down into your unconscious mind that's running the body, and it's running the body to take care of you. And so by telling the body in a reverse way, no, no, we're okay, you can start to clarify the mind and have the mind function on a more logical basis. So, you know, those techniques are useful in those moments when you're trying to be present, when you're trying to be in the now, as Eckhart Tolli says. And I think that there's there's a lot of value when you're making that your focus, making that your intention. Right. Instead of saying I have this great big goal, it's today I want to accomplish this. Right now, I want to accomplish this. And so then fall into those four questions.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. And we excuse me, we did, we did wonder about well, where's the emotion in the questions? Right? Why why didn't emotion come up? You know, feel it or know it or you know, feel into it basically, and sort of ask the universe as we do. Or we're trying to channel information here. And what came up in it, I mean, right now it's making sense, is allow the emotions to come after. Oftentimes they are harder to dream up because you've never experienced it before. So add them after you've really realized the first questions. If you tried for the emotion first, you may have given up.

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Sidetracked.

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Yeah. Because if we I mean, if we haven't lived it, it's hard to feel it, right? When I first started down this path years ago of sort of feeling into manifestation or feeling into the emotions to come with, you know, what's next? What's coming next? And I know this wouldn't be I know this example doesn't cover everybody, but for me, it was thinking about Christmas, the night, the night, Christmas Eve, and the feeling of laying in bed, right? Just it's so excited for what's coming the next morning, right? Not knowing what the presents are gonna be, not knowing what I'm gonna open, but just that ecstatic like feeling of something's coming and I I'm excited for it. And so again, that that that reference doesn't cover everybody on earth, but that's okay. You know, we've all got uh something to refer to, probably similar.

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Well, listen, um absolutely committed, positive expectation.

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Yeah, it's like you know for sure.

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Yeah, a hundred percent tomorrow's gonna be great. I have no doubts.

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Yeah, yeah. And so I would feel into that feeling. I would try to drum up that feeling. So if that's like the only kind of feeling you can sort of put over a situation that you want to work towards, then that's perfect, right?

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If if that's and the and the danger is that if you engage that before you've thought it through, is that you won't think it through, and then the emotion will not do much more than make you happy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. Are you saying like so it needs to be applied to something?

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Well, back to the four questions of setting the intention.

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Right, right. Keep going back in my pages here.

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And I just, you know, the first question, um, what do you want? You know, I like I think it's really normal to struggle with that.

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Oh my gosh, yes. Like, like I said yesterday, years ago, uh I was thinking, what what does bring me joy? What do I want? And I've always been someone sort of who wants to test everything. Like I wanna, I want to, you know, be this renaissance woman, like every have my hands in everything. And that's fine. I think that's good. It it breeds creativity for sure. But uh what does bring me joy? What what is joy to me? And when I went down that path, I don't even know how long ago it was, it was kind of sad because I couldn't lock into that joy feeling, whatever that is, really, I suppose.

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So I think that there's a program that we all struggle with. And we talked a bit about it when we talked about the idea of should. And I think it's really worth breaking that down a little bit. You know, I think for many, many people, and for the most part, when it comes to men, all of the men that I've ever worked with, including myself, my own mind, there's an idea, and I'm not saying it's exclusive to men, I think it's very much part of everybody's programming, men and women, the programming of being a good man, right? You're you're a little kid and you're told, be a good boy, be a good girl, right? And it's like, oh, what the heck does that mean? Right? You know that the people you love and who are caring for you are telling you to be good, and you really want to be, and you haven't you haven't a clue what that means, right? Be good. Well, sometimes I'm good because I make you laugh, because I do silly things, but I guess I'm not supposed to do that right now. And sometimes I'm good because I just go to my bedroom and you like that. So maybe that's what a good boy does. Maybe a good boy goes and stays in his bedroom and doesn't talk. Maybe a good boy doesn't get excited at every little thing. You know, maybe a good boy doesn't talk all the time, right? All these messages we get, and that all those messages can apply to being a good girl, right? It doesn't really matter. It's what the point is, it's a really vague goal that's instilled in you that you accept as really important, almost an overlying complete goal, that everything else I do has to fit under that umbrella, right? And so that continues as we as we mature, and you know, we want to be a a good man, a good woman. And what is a what is a good man and what is a good woman and what do they do? And so much of the program is about fitting in and making others happy and following a a narrative, for lack of a better word, a story, following a plan that isn't yours, but is a plan that's been put upon you and that you've accepted because it's come to you from a loving place or what feels like a loving place or loving sources, you know, people who you think are genuinely trying to help you, right? Parents, teachers, relatives, you know, people who are trying to help you, sometimes older siblings, right? Older siblings echoing the messages that come from the parents, not understanding themselves, passing them down to younger siblings. I mean, these are all very, these are very close relationships. And so you're predisposed to trust the message even when you don't understand it. And then you strive, right? And you strive and you strive. And I've I've met so many men who, when they're, when they're calm and they're clear, they're saying, Well, I'm just trying to be a good man. I'm just trying to do what's right, I'm just trying to live properly. And when you understand how vague that idea is, right, for men and women, how vague that idea, how unhelpful that idea really is. Because it leaves you wanting some direct instructions, something, some direct insight of what that would mean. And we've built a whole society around this. And I don't think that there's a human being walking around without those kinds of messages inside them, wondering what that stands for, what that means. And in some people, they're really convinced they know what it means, and they're really committed to doing the things that they think it means. And for some of them, that's working out well. If, and maybe well isn't the right word, it's it's working out financially. No, it's working out on an outward appearance level that doesn't change the chaos within, right? Yeah, what do I want? Well, I want to be a good man. Well, if that's your answer, there's nothing specific about that, right? Yeah. So I babbled on to maybe you can add the female perspective.

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Like, yeah, I think the story for most of us as females is that it's a story of to be a good girl, right? Be quiet, don't be silly, don't speak up, be of service, right? The saying that just popped into my mind. I don't know if this was said to me, maybe it was. It must have been because it really sounds like my grandmother or something.

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Um

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Now be a good girl and take this to your mom, right? A selfless. Yeah, in the chat. Selfless. And what this ends up being, or d you know, as as we get older, this program ends up really if it's not balanced, it ends up looking like burnout, no boundaries, not knowing where boundaries lay, right? Being quiet in situations so you're not making people angry, not speaking up for what you want. Yeah. You just and losing yourself in it. A lot of older women who are either and you know, retiring or their kids are moving out of the house, or they're in a divorce situation, and they don't know who they are. Like who am I without taking care of this circle around me or work around me? And so they have to re uh look at, remember who they are through, you know, through our process, through hypnosis, if that's what they're coming for. But yeah, that's I think that's I mean, there's many different stories that we that we tell ourselves from the past, but that seems to be the probably the most dominant one for women, I would say. And I I I do uh in the chat here, there is there is an a good comment, and I think it it can really lend itself to what we're saying here. We get caught in the past, we make the past the story of ourselves, and this leaves no room for now to be different, right? So when I'm working with women, especially, we're working on boundaries, let's say, feeling selfish if you're working on yourself. And when we're working on that, um, just something little that I like to say is if you suddenly have boundaries and you're working on yourself, it it doesn't mean that you're not you're you're just suddenly going to never say hi to your neighbor or to, you know, if your neighbor needs is sick or needs soup. But I know it's kind of a silly example, but it doesn't mean that you're never gonna be nice again, right? But I think it's this all or nothing part of us that that's deep inside that gets caught up in the thought that, well, if I have boundaries, I'm not gonna be a nice person anymore. And it's not like that.

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It's like it's that it's that blanket phrase, be be good. Right. And it has so many different meanings because in those moments that you get told, be good and take this to your mom, be good and do the dishes, be good and you know, go to the store for me, be a good boy and be quiet. Sit on the couch and be quiet, you know, be a good girl and go to your room and play.

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Yeah.

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Right. These these being good has so many dimensions to it, none of them particularly clearly, you know, and uh clearly sort of articulated. And I think that that's really what we're driving at here. What do I want? What do I want? You know, you gotta you gotta be allowed to want. You gotta believe that you're allowed to decide what you want. You gotta be able to say, maybe what I want isn't what everybody else wants. Maybe what I want doesn't fit in to everything else, right? Maybe as it has been defined, I don't want to be a good boy. I don't want to do the things that other people tell me to do. I want to do the things that I want to do. Not that there would be anything wrong in that, but only that the mind has, you know, yeah, it's captured the story. What do I want? Now we're we're referencing this back to a much smaller question, which is how do I set an intention for my day?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

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But we can see how this is a question we have a hard time with. This is a question that's not quick and easy. And, you know, the goal setting process, that's worthwhile. You know, thinking in long terms of the future, short terms of the future, that's useful, that's logical, that's helpful. To do all of that, however, in the in the light of a larger question of what do I want, right? When what I want out of today fits into what I want for me in a larger picture, motivation is higher. It's easier to be clear, it's easier to be specific in what I want. But in the moment, right, if I'm just trying to set an intention for the moment, what do I want? I want to drive in this snowstorm from home to town safely. That's what I want. I want to get there safely. It's my intention to drive calmly and safely, aware, paying attention, feeling relaxed and focused to the process of getting here in the car from home to town. What do I want? That's it can be that specific. And in that moment, when, and this is, I think, a very common problem. You know, people who are driving cars are often very not present. No, like there's kids making noise in the back. There's maybe a load in the back of the truck that's not tied down properly. There might be a telephone call going on, there might be a song on the radio. You might be listening to a song on the radio, eating lunch, trying to get to the next job site, to the next thing you gotta do, and you're doing five or six things all at once. And doing all those things, it's really hard to turn that into a singular intention that might be the most compelling or the most important in that moment.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's really easy to use that example, driving as a place where we're not present, we're not in that moment. Oftentimes we're driving because we're in the next moment, right? I'm already thinking about the meeting I'm laid I'm late for.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. Yeah. What do I want? It's a good place to start in the specific, in the moment, and in the larger context. What do I want? Where does this fit into what I've and avoiding the generalized questions that we might have been programmed into us that might in fact be incorrect, right? That's a huge reframe, you know, to say to yourself what I think my life is for might not be accurate.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. I think it can be fun and scary to think of, you know, almost like a redesign of your mind, right? Redesigning your mind.

SPEAKER_02:

That's our business, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's our business, helping people redesign their mind.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. And I think that when you look at the old design and you see that it was actually designed by author authority figures when you were younger, maybe it's a little bit exciting to think, well, who could I be? What do I want?

SPEAKER_02:

I am my own authority.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

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I said, I am enough. I'm worthy enough. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03:

No, it's okay. I said to a few clients over the last little while, like you you can't get in trouble anymore. I mean, I'm talking about not like going out and doing bad things, but like you you can't you you don't have to go to your room, right? You're an adult and you you you don't need to sit in that chair and be quiet. You you can't get in trouble. But I think we're running the program in our mind of be a good girl, be a good boy, don't do that, and don't do this, right? Don't stir the pot. Uh yeah, all those things.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's that critical factor that gets formed when we're very, very young. You know, we spend five, six, seven years being told how to be a good boy, how to be a good girl. And then we're told when we get older, just go do it, just go be a good boy, just go be a good girl. And we start making decisions for ourselves. And it's a very childish view of the world. And a very important part of that childish view of the world is doing what you're told and being good. And that's maybe not what you're here for.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And in fact, when we look out at the world, when we look at people we admire, we look at people who we think made a difference, we look at people who guided groups or whole societies in meaningful directions. They weren't being good. They weren't doing what they were told, they weren't following the script that somebody else wrote for them. They saw through all that and saw something better. What do I want? Maybe we can spend just a minute on what we talked about before. What do I want? You know, sometimes today I wake up and I say to myself, I just want the world to get along. I just want the world to leave each other alone. I just want the world to let people be who they want to be and stop thinking that their happiness depends on controlling other people, that their safety is somehow about making sure other people don't do what they want to do. There's so much fear in that. And then I think, well, how can I do that? Right? What do I want? Well, I have to balance that with sort of my arm's reach, right? I don't think if I picked up the phone and called presidents of nations, prime ministers of nations, they'd take my call, no matter how good my ideas are. I don't think they'll take my call. And I don't think that I'm going to have any success controlling or or even impacting sometimes, you know, local authorities who have way too much impact on my life sometimes, I feel. But what I can do is whatever's within my arm's reach, if I can just create peace all around me, in me. And that's as far as my arm's reach goes. That's enough. That's gonna have an impact on me, which is gonna have an impact on everybody I interact with. I'm going to be spreading that around in little tiny ripples that might not go very far, but they're there. And that's within my arm's reach. And sometimes I'm lucky enough that I have a greater arm's reach, you know, like a podcast that's been listened to in I counted yesterday, a couple of days ago, 64 countries.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And of course, way more cities. And so my ripple might be a little bit bigger. I think thousands of people who are listening. And I can't impact the ones who aren't listening. And I shouldn't be worried about that. It's not, it's not helpful to worry about who I'm not speaking to. But if I do my best within that podcast to be peaceful, then that will ripple in its own way.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And when we talked about that, you had a beautiful vision that I think is worth sharing.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I had a vision of I'll just read it out loud instead of trying to say it all again. So the vision was a a caveman. I saw a caveman coming out and tending to the flowers outside the cave, and that is perfect. And then it switched to someone who's tending a field of grain. It's meant to be there, and that is perfect. The caveman doesn't need to go running out to the field, right? Their their own ripple effect of tending the flowers will reach the field. And the the vision that I had on top of that was like pollen floating from the flowers out to the field. Yeah. So I found that to be a moving experience to see that.

SPEAKER_02:

So sometimes we we think about our intentions and we want I want to be a good man and create peace in the world. Right. And well, that's just beyond my reach. Right. So I clarify what do I want? And it's okay to be a little bit self-focused there because that's the experience we're having as individuals on this planet. And to say that I want peace, I want to be living my life in peace. That's a good intention.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, think about those monks traveling across the US. They are uh they're not trying to get on TV and like create pay peace in another place, they're carrying their peace with them, and people naturally see that, right? And then the ones that are meant to go out to them to say hi or feel that peace with them, they're gonna be there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so if your intention is just to make your experience a little bit better, that's good. And if what you want is very personal in this moment right now, that's good. That's good enough.

SPEAKER_03:

Can you explain personal?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, very self-focused, you know, the the caveman tending the flowers because there's joy in the beauty, and there's a knowledge of an ability to cultivate. Yeah, and there's a desire to make those flowers everything they can be, help those flowers be everything they can be. And then the intention is to tend the garden. Yeah, and in doing so, it contributes lots to the whole, lots and lots that he'll not be aware of. Yeah, yeah. What do I want? What are my intentions in my actions? What is genuinely coming from me and not from a program that's been instilled in me? And that's good. That's good because it's it's going to create your tiny little bit of beauty.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I like that. Okay. Well, that's a wrap for today. Thank you for hanging out with us. And if you're interested in if you're interested in hanging out with us, click the link below in the description wherever you're listening from, and join our infinite mind school, and you'll get a link to join us in the morning if you wish.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I'm gonna add to that and say everybody who's in the school already, please feel free to send a message and say hi and ask a question and hang out because yeah, like we enjoy you.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we do, we do. I know it's early in the morning for a lot of people, but uh definitely send us a message if you can. All right, have a beautiful day. You're welcome. Someone in the chat gonna work on my intentions today. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Okay, have a good day.