Our Dog Tried To Derail The Podcast, But She Accidentally Proved Our Point

We explore how context shapes thoughts, emotions, and decisions, and why shifting from body-first to soul-led living expands what feels possible. A restless dog, a snowy morning, and a few interruptions become live demonstrations of how attention, judgment, and approval patterns can hijack choice—and how a simple question loosens their grip.

• reframing I am not my thoughts to gain mental freedom
• how body reactions trigger emotional spirals that narrow options
• using context to reinterpret distractions and reduce reactivity
• adopting a soul-in-a-body frame to expand compassion and agency
• asking what do I want as a practical imagination tool
• recognizing approval culture and early conditioning on choices
• challenging limiting beliefs revealed by others’ projections
• distinguishing choice between from choice beyond
• treating delays as logistics rather than failed manifestation

Chapters

• 0:00 Cozy Morning, Small Distractions
• 1:45 Turning To Choice As Life’s Nature
• 3:35 Thought Habits And First Reframes
• 6:20 Body Reactions And Emotional Spirals
• 8:50 Soul In A Body Or Body With A Soul
• 11:30 Context: Assumptions Shape Decisions
• 15:20 Senses, Distraction, And Presence
• 18:30 Habit Loops, Worry, And Scarcity
• 21:30 Safety, Needs, And Choice Capacity
• 24:00 Knowing Beyond The Body
• 27:20 Start With The Question: What Do I Want
• 31:20 Limits, Opinions, And Hypnotic Beliefs
• 35:00 Choice Beyond The Economy Box
• 38:00 Approval Culture And Early Conditioning

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:06

We are on the line.

SPEAKER_00: 0:09

With the doggy close by. She's getting our attention today.

SPEAKER_02: 0:14

Yeah. She was gnawing on a bone, so I had to trade her a treat to take the bones and put them up on the counter.

SPEAKER_00: 0:22

Just wants to be around. The sun's coming up. Well, I shouldn't say that it's cloudy day. It's starting to get light, I guess is a better way of saying it.

SPEAKER_04: 0:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 0:30

Warm. The river's wide open. The ice has really melted a lot. Everything is sloppy out there.

SPEAKER_02: 0:38

Yeah. What is it, like two degrees? One degree. It's warm. Plus one. Plus one.

SPEAKER_00: 0:51

Really good uh Rick Mercer. Rick Mercer. This hour is 22 minutes joke out there. Where they make a joke about how Environment Canada, the people who, the meteorologists that predict our weather, they go, they predict it for like two weeks out, which really means you know, they're guessing two weeks from now what it's gonna look like. So they just automatically add a plus one in the middle of winter. So go from minus seven and minus twelve and not minus sixteen, and then they go to just they add plus one there at the end just to give everybody hope.

SPEAKER_02: 1:26

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This morning's funny. Tyke is uh wanting our attention and we're little fuzzy brained and yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:39

She's back. So we're back to talking about choice. I could talk about it every day. And because it's yeah, I'm gonna approach it from the perspective that it's the nature of who and what we are. It is purpose in life to make choices. And my fascination with hypnosis is there's all these things, both in the world and more importantly in our own minds, that stop us from having the freedom to make choices.

SPEAKER_02: 2:14

Yeah. And I'm yeah, I think our life is just choice, like as you say, every moment is choice, really. Especially, I know it's hard to imagine, but and it's hard for everyone, including myself. At some level, we're making choices about our emotions, our thoughts. You know, if a negative thought comes in my mind, I'm like, go away. You know, I try not to get to choose to get stuck in sucked into it.

SPEAKER_00: 2:48

It's really one of the first pieces of work I do with clients is to just break through that idea. You know, thoughts just seem to come upon us, and and we don't seem to have a lot of control over what comes upon us. When we examine the process, maybe there's more control than we think there is. Maybe there's more opportunity to grab that that moment of choice. But the experience we have, and and we've got to be honest, you know, it's it's hard to go from thinking automatically, randomly, to thinking deliberately. And so I I really believe that that's a worthwhile pursuit. The first reframe is I am not my thoughts, you know, to distance yourself from that chatter, to distance yourself from those random things that come into your mind and say, I can choose something different. And at that very, and I see this as like the very incremental level, right? Like this is like the first tiny increment of change, is to say to yourself, I don't have to think about this. I don't have to think this way about this, I don't have to have these thoughts about whatever's going on in the world today, in my life today, in my family today, to grab that first thing that might otherwise seem automatic and out of control, and say, I'm gonna choose what I think about. Um, you know, yeah, we have so many mental habits, but that's the first one. The first one to recognize that sort of cracks open the door. The door is now open to a whole other world of possibilities. To me, that's like that very first deliberate action of choice that we can have.

SPEAKER_02: 4:49

Yeah, I was just gonna say sometimes it's hard to grab that moment because there's thought, but then there's the body reaction to the thought. And when the body reacts to the thought, it's like there's a whole cascade of feelings of survival and safety that and fear that come up. And it's very easy as a human to get attached to those emotions and go, okay, I need to think about this, I need to, I need to spiral into this, I need to hold on to this because my safety is at stake.

SPEAKER_00: 5:23

The body is constantly reminding you that it's there, right? From aches and pains to impulses and urges. You know, the body is is this beautiful vessel. But that leads us to that. We had a wonderful, wonderful evening last night with some two new, two very new and and beautiful friends. And when we were thinking about talking about choice, Hillary remembered something that was said, you want to tell it? Tell a story?

SPEAKER_02: 5:53

Yeah. So what came to mind about choice this morning? I think I was half asleep when it actually came into my mind, but it was how would you choose from a soul's perspective? And that thought sort of dominoed into the next thought, which came from last night, where our friends said, Are you living? Did your life show itself as living from a soul experiencing a body or a body experiencing a soul? Right, like the opposite.

SPEAKER_00: 6:43

When I when I work with clients, I use the concept of context. C-O-N-T-E-X-T, context. Context is for me, you know, what is oh, sorry, folks, the uh eagle just got my eye. Eagle just landed out there by the uh open river, so it caught my attention. We're very so blessed to have this constant world outside our window. Now back to the point. All right, I wanted to share that with you. Context is the platform or the situation that you're living in. But most importantly, it's a set of assumptions, interpretations, and perspectives through which you interpret what's going on around you. Assumptions, you know, like what was said last night. Are you living your life as a body with a soul or as a soul in a body? Yeah, I can't concentrate. She's she's she's doing everything she can do.

SPEAKER_01: 7:57

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Can you hear her eating? No, it's only us getting getting whisked off to crunchy land.

SPEAKER_00: 8:10

All right, so I'll try again. I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best to ignore her the way I would in a normal day. She's happy, that's what matters.

SPEAKER_01: 8:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:19

And the world outside is beautiful, and that's what matters.

SPEAKER_01: 8:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:23

So that's part of my context, right? My context, I'm here trying to do a podcast within the context of noise and distractions. And I live in a world of noise and distractions. And so when I look at my world and I say, this is a distracting place, that changes the way I interpret everything that goes on around me.

SPEAKER_04: 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:45

I start to define things as either distractions or non-distractions. And then I interpret that. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I human beings just tend to judge, right? It's good, bad, good, bad. Everything's good, bad. So while I'm doing a podcast, right, that that's a bad thing. And that activates frustration, that activates confusion, that activates a whole world of emotions. But it's the context, right? The context of I'm doing a podcast, and there's distractions. That's my context, that's the circumstance I'm in. And with that, the assumptions and the interpretations lead me to emotions that lead me to often the choices I don't want to make, right? The choices that that would frustrate me later because they were emotional, because they were reactive, because they were less calm and deliberate. That's really the point that I'm trying to make is that we make our choices from the context we believe that we're in.

SPEAKER_02: 9:57

You know, we look around and the world gets our attention. It gets our it distracts us from being present. And Tyke is, you know, we love her to death. But in this moment, she I think she's teaching us a lesson about what we're talking about today.

SPEAKER_00: 10:14

Yeah, about how the body is a constant the body and its senses, right? Your senses, our hearing, our vision. Yeah, these drive us. Oh, but that's not the right direction. Those draw us into the world. They they grab us and pull us into a direction that our intention might not want to go.

SPEAKER_01: 10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 10:42

And so it's really hard to see yourself in a context as a soul using a body to have an experience of a physical world.

SPEAKER_04: 10:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 10:54

Because that context would just lead to the kind of joy I feel when she's doing this stuff. Because it is it's funny and it's it's beautiful, and she she really loves being part of our lives.

SPEAKER_03: 11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:08

She loves being included in everything.

SPEAKER_03: 11:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:12

And there's seldom anywhere I can go that she isn't doing her best to get right in front of me.

SPEAKER_01: 11:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:20

And that's that's beautiful. I mean, that's part of the context of my life. The context of my life includes my beautiful talk. I think if you consider that, as we've said so many times, the mind is a habit-making thing, and the mind collects experiences, and experiences are always based on interpretations of happenings.

SPEAKER_04: 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:44

And you see how you can collect those things. You can you can have repeated happenings which are interpreted the same way over and over, that result in a whole body of experiences in your mind that cause you to continue to interpret things the same way. And there are conditions, there are there are ways of being as humans that drive us in that direction. You know, worry is one of those things. When we live in circumstances that cause us to worry, you know, when we live that there are places in the world today where there's conflict, there's places in the world today where there's extreme poverty, there's places in the world today where there are epidemics. There are places in the world today that are causing the people of those places to be really drawn into a pattern of thinking that makes it almost impossible to have choices.

SPEAKER_02: 12:48

Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like choices based on hierarchy of needs.

SPEAKER_00: 12:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 12:55

Or the ability to make choice. Your choices are very different based on your needs.

SPEAKER_00: 13:02

And simply we can think about larger, more abstract concepts when we are physically safe. Right? When we are physically secure, when we are physically satisfied, when we are in a situation where our body is not calling to us and trying to grab our attention. Yeah. So when I think about people who experience, you know, illness, chronic pain, uh, disability, right? They're approaching their life with that as part of their context. And it makes it really hard to feel like you can make choices, to feel free to make choices, yeah, to even see the possibility of choices. And that's just because we're human. We're having an experience of being human. If I shift that and say, I'm having the experience of being human, but what I am is something more, something bigger, something broader. I'm changing my context. So as I was driving that back before, it's coming back to me, you know, it's a conversation I have with most of my clients. Some are already having that conversation with themselves, but but most of my clients, I'll have a con a conversation about their context, right? Are you a person in a world of chaos with forces attacking you left and right, doing your best to defend yourself and try to stay sane? Or it in a in a body, in a life that has a distinct measure, has limitations in terms of physical characteristics. Or can you shift that to I am an eternal soul having one of a thousand lifetimes, each meant to teach me something, each meant to experience a body and its limitations, and find my way around that? It shifts things completely. And, you know, the answer I often get is well, how can you know that? I can know I'm a body. I mean, that's pretty evident. That's coming at me every minute of every day. I know I'm in a crazy world because it's coming at me every minute of every day, right? But how can I know that I'm something more than that? How can I know that this is just temporary? How can I know that I'm eternal? And for me, the answer is spend time in your mind. Spend time exploring the depth of your mind, spend time exploring the awareness you seem to have sometimes of you know what's about to happen. Everybody has those little moments in their life where they go, oh, isn't that neat? They call it coincidence, right? Because it's a really good way to dismiss it. But spend time examining it, spend time trying to create it. I think most of the people we're talking to in this podcast are already moving in that direction. They're already stepping towards there's something more to me. I'm bigger than this, I'm more than this, you know, that whole I'm bigger than my body.

SPEAKER_02: 16:28

What would be a good for listeners, like what would be a good, you know, when you think about explore your mind? Well, where do you start? What would be a good question to start with? Who am I?

SPEAKER_00: 16:41

What do I want? What do I want is a question that we only ask if we think things can be different. It taps into something that's natural inside us, that there are different possibilities. It taps into our imagination. I mean, what is that? Like, that's an amazing thing, imagination. Like, isn't that wild? That I'm not just a being responding to conditions around me. I'm actually a being that has creativity, that has the capacity to imagine that things might be different, that things could be different. And although that seems like a really practical step, right, I don't know. I mean, I watch my dog sleep and have dreams, but I don't know that my dog spends time imagining what might be. As human beings, we do though, as human beings, we're reaching out past our present circumstance. And that is like the simplest question that drives you out of present conditions. Yeah, that was just a gift to me a minute ago.

SPEAKER_02: 17:54

No, it's beautiful. What do I want? Did you ask your guides?

SPEAKER_00: 17:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 17:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 17:59

I didn't know. That's not something I'd have come up with.

SPEAKER_02: 18:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 18:02

What do I want? Take that step outside of who you are, who you think you are. You know, when I think back, I I used to feel trapped in that question of how can you know? And you can know. First of all, when somebody tells you you can't know, I think it's important to resist that statement because you've heard it a bazillion times, right? It's it's what's at you all the time. Somebody is saying you can't know.

SPEAKER_03: 18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 18:33

And what they ignore is the bountiful evidence out there in the world that there is a whole lot more, right? You heard me say it a million times. The only non-scientific thing you can do is ignore evidence. If you're ignoring what people are reporting, if you're ignoring what people's experience is, if you're ignoring what whole groups of people are claiming as their experience, you're really not very scientific. It can be that a lot of the stuff that people report is hard to verify. But then I point to things like what goes on in the world, right? Like how every major spy agency for every big country in the world has a whole division dedicated to these kinds of things, right? To remote viewing. Oh, yeah, to uh the uh telekinesis, to, to all these phenomena that people call you know parapsychological, that people want to dismiss as like unreal. Well, there's there's scientists dedicated to studying this. There's no etic sciences, just that whole world of how does the mind create. There are there are all kinds of people out there don't accept the statement that you can't know. You can know, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 19:57

Know yourself?

SPEAKER_00: 19:59

No. Your nature.

SPEAKER_02: 20:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 20:02

Know what life is about. Know that there's more to you than this body. And yeah, that's a beautiful question. What do I want? That act of imagination, that act of seeking, that's that, that's the absolute first step out of the context of I am a body or I am a I'm a being trapped in a body, trapped in a world.

unknown: 20:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 20:27

It's the first step out of that sort of frame of mind, that context. So think of all the things that you assume about the world and think of all the ways that you tend to interpret things in patterns, interpreting things the same way. Sometimes we we call those things a philosophy. My life philosophy is. Think about the the ways that we limit ourselves. How many times have you said, well, I I couldn't do that, or I can't.

SPEAKER_02: 21:01

Or when people place limits on us.

SPEAKER_00: 21:05

Yes. And we accept them sometimes.

SPEAKER_02: 21:08

Yeah. I encourage people like to not try not to let others opinions or belief systems take you down, basically. Right. With this move that we're making, I had somebody we're thinking, we're, you know, we're we're not sure exactly where we're going yet, but in one one of the contexts, somebody said, you can't move there, you can't afford it there. And I was like gut punched. I was like, don't tell me what I can and can't afford. I didn't say that out loud, but you know, like it their belief systems, their ideas of their own world crept into what I can or can't do.

SPEAKER_00: 21:58

Yeah, people reveal their context really easily when they say things like, you know, you can or you can't.

SPEAKER_01: 22:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 22:08

And and that's the stuff to challenge, I think, you know, for yourself. Um I think it's worth trying to establish your own new boundaries for your context. Reconsider all of the limits. You know, we we're hypnotists, we deal in limiting beliefs. Reconsider the limits, but start with what do I want? Right? Allow that imagination to run wild. Allow that, yeah. Imagine is the beginning of creativity. Imagination really triggers love, right? And you can say, well, I'm not good at imagining, but if you're a warrior, yeah, you're good at imagining. You just tend to imagine imagine negative things, right? So take that imagination and ask yourself, what do I want?

SPEAKER_02: 23:03

And it doesn't have to be like allow anything to come to mind. It can be material or not material, it can be ethereal, it can be anything. Anything. Don't place limits on what answers you receive.

SPEAKER_00: 23:18

Or see the limits as a revelation of your context.

SPEAKER_02: 23:24

Yeah, that's true too. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:26

You know, we we do that with our clients, right? Uh I start off with the uh big, big premise, and I watch how people react to it.

SPEAKER_04: 23:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:36

And the big, big premise is I can have beer do anything I want.

SPEAKER_04: 23:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:42

Which is the truth, but people don't see it that way. And when I say that, their limiting beliefs come flying in the room. Oh, that's not true because, and then they start listing the things that they believe that interfere with their absolute ability to have, do, or be anything they want.

SPEAKER_03: 24:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 24:05

And those beliefs come from somewhere. And then we as hypnotists work to expand those beliefs. But that helps to define for you what is the context that you have created, and that simple shift that says, you know, I am not this body, I am the one driving this body. I am the awareness observing what's happening around this body, and I can choose to react to it any way I want. That's the beginning of choice. You know, most of the choice that we live in is choice between, right? So many people they they they they start that very, very young. They say to a little one, what do you want to be when you grow up? And what they really imply is, what job do you want in the economy? Yeah. Which is a really interesting context, right? To believe that I am confined within the modern economy as to how I will spend my days, right? I mean just saying that's shaking a few people, I think. But we start that really, really young. What do you want to be? Which is nice because it's kind of creative. Unfortunately, we always react to it and we try to shape it, you know. So you want to be a firefighter, or you want to be, you know, a police officer, or you want to be a doctor, right? We shape it.

SPEAKER_02: 25:37

In the chat, it's a yes, because when you say you want to be a fairy, people laugh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:46

Yeah. Or to to say, you know, when I grow up, I want to be peaceful.

SPEAKER_02: 25:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:53

When I grow up, I want to be caring and compassionate.

SPEAKER_02: 25:58

And that's not what children see, right? They wouldn't even know that that's an option to say. And I wonder, when you said firefighter, it's funny because just moments later, I was like, I wonder why every child says firefighter. What is that? I wonder.

SPEAKER_00: 26:12

You know, um this takes me to that experiment where they had a classroom of kindergarten kids, and the teachers didn't call anything, any work that the kids did didn't get labeled good or bad, didn't get labeled correct or incorrect, didn't get labeled right or wrong. There was never one person's work told it was better than others. They didn't compare each other's work. Um and the teachers worked really hard. I mean, that's gotta be, that's got to take a lot of effort for teachers to not react that way, to not be saying, oh, I really like that, Johnny, right? Because that leads into approval, right? But I really believe that, you know, there's a lot of scientists talk about this. We are we we are experiencing life early on as a body. And the first experience we have as a body is that we need others. Without others, I don't survive. Yeah, I don't, I don't get anywhere, I don't grow, I don't become. And so approval and acceptance is like this hardwired driving force inside us from the time we're really, really young. In fact, scientists have found the place in the brain where that starts, where that grows from. And they they talk about it as it's almost, you know, innate. And I think that because it's part of the mind, then my personal view, please feel free to ignore my personal view, is if it's part of the mind, it can be changed. Because if it's part of the mind, it's part of interpretation. But the point is, is that we are predisposed right from the get-go to seek approval, to seek acceptance, to seek belonging, to comply. And so when little little Billy says to the teacher, I want to be a firefighter, and the teacher goes, Oh, isn't that wonderful? Well, firefighters are wonderful. Well, now young Sue is now saying, Well, I want to be a firefighter then, right? Because look what the teacher. Teacher loves firefighters. I want the teacher to love me, right? And all of a sudden, we start repeating things we hear, and we get guided in those directions.

SPEAKER_02: 28:27

Sorry if I missed it. Can I ask something? What did the teachers do instead?

SPEAKER_00: 28:32

Well, the teachers made comments about the the qualities of the work. And so instead of instead of saying things like, you know, I really like that color that you used, they'd say it in non-judgmental terms. You used a lot of blue on this one. Yes. And what happened in the classroom when the teacher didn't use approval, non-approval terms, or praise or non-praise terms, non-comparison terms, is that the kids stopped going to the teacher for approval and they started to comment openly on each other's work. And they were they were much more collaborative, right? And they were much less concerned with limits and correctness. Yeah, I want to dig up that study. I read it a few months ago, and I was just like, holy crap, you know, we're shaped so early in our lives. Yeah, our context is shaped, and that's our context that determines what we perceive as our choices.

SPEAKER_02: 29:38

And it's funny because when you when you and this just might be a me thing, but I'm sure other people experience this too. If someone, so that wasn't my experience growing up, obviously, right? But now, like if someone came to me as an adult and looked at my art and said, you used a lot of blue in that, I would be like, Oh my god, is there too much blue? Is there is it the wrong blue? Is it the right because I'm not getting the approval, I'm just getting like a judgment in my mind. So that's not a judgment yet for a child. That's like uh interesting.

SPEAKER_00: 30:17

Yeah, you know, judgment is a habit. Judgment is commonplace, judgment is everywhere, judgment is automatic, judgment is a huge habit that the vast majority of people, including me, have. And it's just never helpful. It certainly puts limits on everything, you know. And we come back to what I was saying, you know, last time we talked. You know, there are people out there who have some different characteristics about them where they are capable of acting in resistance to all these compliance limitations and still create something new from their own curiosity, from their own, from their own creativity. And we look at those people, right, at first, and we judge them, we react to them, we try to get them to comply, we try to get them to get back in line, but then something happens that rewards their choosing outside of the known context. And those rewards lead them to continue. And those are the those are the advances in our world. Yeah, I think there's there's a lot of reason why those advances take place in closed laboratories where people aren't watching, where people can't get in there and say, oh, don't be crazy, oh, that's impossible, or what are you doing that for? Or, you know, you know, it's there's an old saying, Henry Ford, somebody asked Henry Ford, you know, something to the effect of how do you follow the marketplace? And Henry Ford said, if I asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me they wanted a faster horse.

SPEAKER_02: 32:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 32:10

People didn't know, right, what they wanted. They didn't know that they would want these automobiles as bad as they do. No, we all watched Star Trek and saw, you know, the flip, yeah, the flip communicators, right? And we watched Star Trek advance so that it was just touching a part of their body and just speaking. And that's where we're headed. We're already working on the technology to implant your phone in the side of your head, right? These are these are imaginations, right? People think stuff that we might otherwise think is crazy, and then they stick with it. They choose to pursue it. Yeah, they choose to say, I don't want to stay within the context. I think one of the the things that we are all capable of is asking, what do I want? What would make life better for me? What would what do I want that will change these negative feelings I have? And I'm not I'm trying to say that in a way to not just think about things, yeah. Right? To think about conditions, to think about societies, to think about communities, expand the context. Because anything's possible. Anything's possible. We've proven that as human beings. No, we'll never fly. Okay, yeah. Now I can get anywhere in the world in less than 24 hours from almost anywhere else. Yeah, we will never touch the moon. You know, we changed the moon from a thing to a place. What do I want? That's the first step out of your context, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02: 33:56

Yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_00: 33:57

Our imagination is underutilized, I guess.

SPEAKER_02: 34:01

Yeah. I think it is underutilized, and I think we do that to ourselves. I have many clients, it's just sort of dawning on me right now when we talk about imagination, that are scared of their imagination because they imagined at some point in their life and it didn't come true. And so, no way am I getting sucked into that again. You know?

SPEAKER_00: 34:26

Yeah, I think I think um we all run into judgment and we all run into other people's fears.

SPEAKER_01: 34:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 34:34

And we all run into loved ones attempting to protect us.

SPEAKER_04: 34:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 34:40

These are all sort of very common reactions that cause us to doubt our own imagination and push us back into that limited context. But as our friend said, you know, shifting that context just simply am I a body with a soul, or am I a soul experiencing the world through a body changes what's possible. It changes how you feel about yourself, it changes the intensity and the meaning of the events that are going on around you.

SPEAKER_02: 35:18

Yes, because if you bring on the idea that you're a soul experiencing a body, that means that your neighbor is a soul experiencing a body. That means that the homeless person on the street is a soul experiencing a body. And even the people that we judge the most are souls experiencing bodies.

SPEAKER_00: 35:44

And when you spend time in that context, if you spend time in any expanded context, you're going to make different choices. Yeah. And those contexts that people are living in, I think at some point or another, when people go on a mental journey, when they go to discover their mind and what's in their mind, what's possible, they discover that that too was a choice. The context I'm in, the body I have, the family I'm living in, the country and community and the planet is also a choice. We are at our very nature choice. That's what we are, in spite of all the conditions attempting to limit that. And that choice. Yeah, I'm just gonna say it, and maybe we'll talk about it tomorrow. The act of choice is an act of love.

SPEAKER_02: 36:41

Yeah, I think too, like the act of choice is the act of love, is the act of creative force. And when we are pure energy making choices, things happen in an instant, right? But sometimes it it takes a little extra time when we make a choice here on earth, still from the soul. We're still making choices from the soul, from the energy. But to make it physical sometimes takes an extra minute. Sometimes. But I think we get caught up in that extra time and we think, oh, I can't make choice, I can't do this, I can't manifest or you know, because it didn't happen Amazon Prime style. Takes a little minute, it takes a little while. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:38

Interesting more. Where did Doggy go?

SPEAKER_02: 37:42

She went into the other room.

SPEAKER_00: 37:44

It's hard to be ignored.

SPEAKER_02: 37:46

Oh.

SPEAKER_00: 37:47

All right.

SPEAKER_02: 37:48

Okay. Have a good day, and we'll see you later. Thanks.