Soul Week, Episode 3: Life Between Live's

We explore how regression reframes old meanings, why patterns resist change, and what clients report in the “life between lives,” from councils and guides to pre-birth plans and forgiveness. Stories, methods, and resources show how perspective widens and peace grows when identity expands beyond one lifetime.

• subconscious builds beliefs that shape expectations and interpretations
• regression updates meaning to soften emotional reactivity
• past lives and life between lives as therapeutic perspectives
• NDE consistencies and Michael Newton’s case work
• safe transition methods and asking higher self permission
• councils, libraries, and planning rooms as common waypoints
• relationships as chosen roles for growth and forgiveness
• reassurance that you remain on your soul plan
• practical hypnosis setup, depth, and the bridge technique
• resources for deeper study and next steps

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Chapters

• 0:00 Morning Setup And Weather Banter
• 1:28 Why Patterns Make Change Hard
• 3:25 Regression As A Tool For Reinterpretation
• 6:14 Past Lives And Life Between Lives
• 8:22 Transitioning At Death: Methods And Safety
• 11:05 Evidence From NDEs And Newton’s Findings
• 14:10 Purpose, Soul Plans, And Not Taking Life So Seriously
• 17:15 What Clients Meet On The Other Side
• 20:30 Councils, Libraries, And Planning Rooms
• 23:45 Induction Depth, Permission, And The Bridge Technique
• 27:00 Guides Lead The Process And Therapy
• 30:05 Hillary’s Personal Glimpses Of The Other Side
• 33:10 Why Clients Go: Plan Checks And Reassurance
• 36:05 Choice, Multiverse Curiosity, And Perspective
• 39:15 Contracts, Forgiveness, And Staying On Track
• 42:05 Resources, Skepticism, And Next Steps

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:08

We are on the line.

SPEAKER_00: 0:10

The right microphone and everything.

SPEAKER_02: 0:12

Yep. Yep, the right microphone is on. Sun is coming up. Blesses the weather man though, so the coffee is hot. Yep, the coffee. We just made new coffees.

SPEAKER_00: 0:24

And it got warm yesterday. So between all the water flowing into the lake and all the warm rather the rivers opened up.

SPEAKER_01: 0:33

Oh, has it?

SPEAKER_00: 0:36

This channel right down the middle of our areas all open water, which always excites me because that's when the muskrats come out to play.

SPEAKER_02: 0:43

Yeah, the muskrats and the eagles. The eagles sit on the ice while the muskrats go get food and then they're sort of stealing from each other. Yeah. It's a beautiful day there too. Two degrees. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01

It always feels safer when things aren't freezing. Wonder what our friends around the world think about that. There's lots of places. We're we have some listeners in Finland. So they're they're laughing at us because you know they're probably minus 20 every day now for the next three months. And our friends in Singapore probably, unless they've been into Canada, they haven't a clue what we're talking about. Welcome everybody. Thanks for being here.

SPEAKER_02: 1:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28

So we're continuing our our little triplet regression ideas, going backwards, going backwards and resolving, understanding, putting new meaning on what's already happened in that linear way of thinking of time, which isn't probably accurate. And there are better ways to think about time, I believe. But what it does is the way our our subconscious mind tracks and uh you know what's it aggregates experience, right? We have experiences that confirm experiences, we have new experiences that sometimes introduce new things to our belief system. We have all of these experiences compiling. Um, and in that process, they they shape what we anticipate, right? They create expectations, and in that process of our expectations, we start to shape what comes our way through interpretation. We expect certain things, so we interpret things certain ways, and then that tends to create more patterns, more consistency in our life, and then we find that sometimes unpleasant, we find it sometimes very frustrating, we find it sometimes so incredibly intolerable that we want change. We need change. And because we've been so good at creating patterns and habits with our mind, change becomes very, very hard. It's hard to see things differently, and therefore it's hard to interpret things differently, and therefore it's hard to engage the world with a different um tone, a different intention. And so people come see hypnotists. And when they do, we will often go back and try to reinterpret events that are particularly problematic, that cause problematic emotions, that cause problematic habitual behaviors, habitual reactions, and we try to go back and address those, realizing that we are really habit-forming machines. We really love habits. It's part of the great functioning of our mind is to take us from having to concentrate on things to being able to do them while using the mind for other things. And that includes, you know, functional things in the day, but it also includes the way we interpret and react to our reality. So regression is the tool that we go back to change some of those interpretations because often, and I might be so bold as to say most of the time, we're interpreting what's going on around us incorrectly because the interpretations that we use are really self-focused. What does this mean about me? What does this mean to me? What does this mean about how I see the world? Because we're having an individualized experience in these bodies. That's the nature of it. So, with all of that said, very often, most of us need to go back and reconsider most of our beliefs and most of the ways we interpret the world. And in doing so, we often create less, well, new new interpretations lead to new emotions and often less emotion, and certainly less negative emotions. And that's why we talk about accomplishing something called peace. And emotions go up, emotions goes go down. Emotions we like, emotions we don't like. And then we find ourselves not being so emotional because we're less likely to interpret everything as meaning something about us, somehow attacking us. And then that peace is once we start experiencing that peace, it starts to become a goal. Yeah, I want that more. I want more of that. It's just preferences. Anyway, so regression is the tool that we use to go back and reinterpret. And we can go back and reinterpret things that happened in our lifetime and go right back into the womb in our lifetime. We can interpret things, reinterpret things from past lifetimes, because sometimes that's where we're led in therapy. We're led backwards to where something happened in a previous lifetime that has left an emotional imprint on us that we relate to in this life. And then, you know, sometimes when we regress into past lifetimes and then we come forward towards the present lifetime, and forward's just a figurative statement because we see time as linear. We come forward in time, we will often bounce into the life between lives, which we've talked about a lot, but it's worth talking about again because it too is a form of regression, because it has in our mind already happened, and therefore we consider it something of the past. And so the life between lives is the place. Well, with that said, you know, we could talk about Michael Newton, we can talk about how this life between lives stuff got discovered, we could talk a little bit about NDEs. These are the the things that we've learned about this space, and we've also learned how to specifically regress into what's referred to as the life between lives, or we often call it just the other side. And there's a lot to talk about there, as we have in the past, but let's let's see what comes up today.

SPEAKER_02: 7:36

We left off yesterday sort of bringing everybody through different kinds of past lives, and then up until the transition time of that life in a session. That's how a hypnotist should be bringing bringing a client through is important dates in the life or wherever they're meant to go, some healing, some understanding, forgiveness work, lessons, all that stuff. And then the we we then take the client into the life between by going to the last day in the life and transitioning into the life between. This has looked, I'm gonna talk about just briefly two ways that really stand out to me as ways of transitioning that people have gone through, is transitioning as the person that you were in that life. So as a hypnotist, I'm saying, okay, we're gonna go now gently to the last day in the life that you're experiencing right now, that you're looking at right now. We're gonna go there gently, be there now. What do you notice? How is that person transitioning? Like what are they dying from? Or is there people around? Or you also want to make sure that they're not feeling the, you know, the the death. So a lot of times it's looked at much like third person perspective, and then they'll transition out of the body. Another way that's come up a lot is becoming. So say you I have a client and we're gonna go to the last day in the life, but there's been something that that person has been really hanging on to, and they need help transitioning. So what ends up happening is the person, my client, will become themselves as a guide to receive the person out of the body. We hear about many, I think it's up to, I think it's like 90%, close to 90% of people see experience guides or loved ones near their transition time in real life. And so it's sort of like that, but you're you're seeing your guide is yourself, if that makes sense. So you are the guide for the person that you just experienced the life of, and you're helping them out of the body. And then after the transition happens, you're looking at the life, whether you're your guide with the person or the person just looking at the life with another kind of guide or light around you. You are then unpacking the life a little bit, sort of like a life review in your death experiences. And then you go into the light and and transition into the light, and that's where you start with the life between lives portion.

SPEAKER_00: 10:45

Now I just want to just step in and say, you know, this seems, you know, as we talk about it, right, for some people, there's going to be an immediate sort of dismissal, like, how how can you know, that kind of thing. And I'm gonna answer that because I've had people say to me before, well, how can you know? And my answer to that is that the only unscientific thing you can do is ignore evidence. And the fact is, is there's been literally hundreds of thousands of people who have had near-death experiences where physically the body dies and it's for a period of time, and those periods of time will vary from three or four minutes to 30 or 40 minutes, and in some cases, multiple hours, and then the person comes back. The body reanimates, and the person comes back and reports an experience. And there's been lots of scientific approach analysis of these experiences to show that they're very consistent. There's there's a ridiculous amount of overlap across cultures, across religious beliefs, that that the experience itself, the transition from the body into the other side, has a path. It has a process, it has others involved. And it's very consistent, really, in terms of people's experiences when they go through that. So there's a lot of evidence there, that there's a lot of information there if you're interested in knowing. And then, you know, I also refer to the Michael Newton work. Michael Newton, yeah, for those who haven't heard me say this before, a psychiatrist, based on it in New York, I believe, one day was working. He was a psychiatrist who believed that hypnosis was therapeutic, that regression was therapeutic, that if regression led to a past life, it was therapeutic. And he didn't concern himself with whether or not it was true. Was it true? Did it really happen? It doesn't really matter to him. He was so impressed with the therapeutic results that he was open to doing it. And then one day, quite literally, by accident, I mean he tells this story in his first book, Journey of Souls. By accident, he took a client into, well, in therapy, took a client into a past life and then took them to the end of that past life. And then, meaning to take them into this life that they were experiencing now, he simply guided them to okay, what happens next? Go forward now. And what happened was they went into this life between lives. They went into the other side because that was what actually happened next. Him thinking that they went immediately into a new body, a new incarnation was erroneous at the time. And I'm not aware of anybody using hypnosis for this process before Michael Newton. And I am aware of literally dozens of prominent hypnotists who use it now as a central focus of their practice. It's all they do. And they continue to write case studies of people who have gone through this. And Hillary and I have been trained in this, and we've taken our clients. I find it to be a natural part of the therapeutic process with almost all my clients. There's very few clients I have that we don't ultimately go to the other side, but we can also deliberately just go to the other side. There's hypnosis techniques to do that. It's pretty straightforward if the person's willing in, and I'm going to use the word aloud. I think sometimes our subconscious mind restricts what it lets us have access to. And I think that there's purpose behind that. The subconscious mind knows a lot more than we uh give it credit for. Anyway, so Michael Newton took that person into the life between lives and was so fascinated by what happened, decided that he wanted to explore that. And then he took thousands of clients into the life between lives, which was the phrase he used. And I've shared on this podcast my experience meeting Jeremy, who was, you know, I was deeply fascinated by a near-death experience and life between lives. And I happened to get on a plane, and I was just, I was just so incredibly focused on this that life brought me the ability to meet someone who had a near-death experience, who had experience of the other side. And and we had a very wonderful and for me enlightening conversation. And a very it's it's a peace-creating thing to me. You know, my past life uh regressions uh prior to that really brought me to a place of peace that that my instincts that told me, you know, death wasn't real, we don't end, we don't begin here, we don't end here. Those kinds of instincts in me had become really, really activated. And my past life hypnosis experience really put that in perspective. And because I really resonated and really felt like I was, you know, having memory, not creation, you know, brought a real real confidence in my lack of belief and death. And then, you know, my experience with life between lives has given me incredible confidence that maybe I shouldn't take this life so darn seriously. It's just one of a whole bunch that is here for me to have experience. And it's not permanent. It's just quite literally that. It's an experience. It's something that I gain from, depending on how I interpret it. With all of that said, Michael Newton did this a lot. He wrote three books. So if you're fascinated by this stuff, I encourage you to spend some time. YouTube is filled with near-death experience accounts. There are many, many books on near-death experiences. There are scientific studies out there about near-death experiences. There is lots written about the life between lives now. Michael Newton's books are a great place to start, but there are other people writing. Robert Schwartz is one who really talks about the soul's plan, and that's where we're sort of headed now with this conversation. The idea is that there is a purpose and a plan behind our lifetimes, that for many people, the regression to this place between lives, this existence between lives, which Jeremy tells me, you know, and his words were the life on the other side, that's that's the movie. These little lifetimes we live are the commercial. And he's and that's the way that those were the words he used for me. That idea that really our existence, our beingness is really on the other side, and that these lifetimes are not the central focus. They're a tool that we use to move our soul towards God, towards love, towards higher awareness. And Michael Newton talks about that in his books. So, anyway, so we find that to be therapeutic sometimes for people to just be once they have an awareness that there's a whole lot more to them than this body. And once they have an awareness that they are a mind and they have levels to this mind and they have depth to this mind, then being aware that there's more to them on the other side really makes an enormous shift for many people about what they're doing here and how they're doing it here. So, with that said, I want to now talk to Hillary and let Hillary talk about what people find when they go. What's that experience when they go to the other side?

SPEAKER_02: 19:00

Yeah, so it the many many people when they come to me, they they want to go to the other side and they have compiled a list of questions that they'd like to ask their higher self or guides or whoever's meant to work with them that day. And when they get to the other side, there's I'll I'll give broad I'll give examples because there's so there's so many. There's so many examples, so I'm just going to try to whittle it down to the most prevalent ones. But there's lots of light. There's a sense of deep peace and belonging and acceptance. Love. But I want to speak for a moment about the word love. We we call it love, but it's so much more when you're over there. It's it's not love in the human sense. The best way that I can describe it is almost like if you are connected to every In the universe. And it's connected to you. And you just feel like everything's going to be okay. Like no matter what, it's going to be okay. And there's this deep connection and peace. And so when they're on the other side, we ask that a guide or higher self, or again, whoever's meant to work within that day steps forward or floats forward. And that guide can wherever's meant to be there can look or feel like any anything. It can be a light, it can be a a sense. Oh, I sense somebody is next to me, or a being is next to me. It can have form, it can have color, it can look male or female or other, you know. I've had, like I mentioned yesterday, I've had teams of non-human beings be there for people when they're in the in the light. And then we depending on where the guide or the higher self wants to go in that session, that's where we go. So sometimes it's the library. I think in the human human terms, we call it the Akashic Records. We go to fields and meadows and uh cities of light and crystalline cities. We go to the council, which is sort of looks and feels like actually, you know what? It it's changing. And I don't know how it's changing. I don't know if it's because maybe we felt comfortable in the old style. Uh, I'm gonna get there in a second, but like the old style room that we're taken to in the council, and now it's changing to be more collaborative. So I'll explain. Not long ago, many people going to the council would end up in a sort of like a courtroom-looking place with podiums, and you'd be standing or floating there with your guide, and guides counsel would be behind these podiums that were up higher. And now I haven't seen that in a long time with clients. Now it seems everyone is going to a boardroom table, and everybody's sitting around a table, all the guides and council. So really interesting how it's sort of changing. And it's not me changing it. I'm not like, okay, now you're gonna see a boardroom table. It's it's them bringing that through, right? We don't we don't say what you're gonna see. So that's been really fascinating, that change. But we go to council, oh my gosh, we we go to pre-birth planning places where we get a sense of, well, why did I sign up for them? You know, and we look at our blueprints, as many people call them. We have others that are in our life right now come to us as souls, as their their spirit self. Uh maybe in a pre-birth planning situation, we've got a soul that we've had a lot of issues with, and we're gonna talk to them and be like, why did what what are we learning from each other? What's going on here? Why, why did we set up this life together? That can be really helpful. I know I'm missing so many places. It's because it's so it's so different for everybody, obviously, but it's so this, it's so much the same.

SPEAKER_00: 23:34

I mean, that's that's the magic thing about it. Everybody is going to, when we do this, so therapeutically, as a hypnotist, you need a pretty good trance. You need a pretty deep trance, you need a pretty willing subject, you need pretty clear expectations and intentions. And so when I start a session like this where I know I'm going to the other side, I'm very patient with the induction. And believe it or not, I don't let them lean back very far in the chair because I want them in a deep trance, but I don't want to tempt sleep.

SPEAKER_01: 24:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 24:08

I want them to be in a deep trance, but very engaged with what they're experiencing. So that's, you know, that's a technique that's that requires a certain amount of hypnotic wherewithal to be able to get somebody to a place where they're deeply, deeply focused, but not naturally wanting to fall deeper into sleep. I get them in a deeper trance. I try to keep things very non-concrete, very ethereal. We deal in light. We don't we don't go to a place like we normally would in hypnosis. We go into a trance, we try to free ourselves. We'll use the space sometimes as a place to hang out. The point is that you need a deep trance and you need a very willing subject and you need a clear attention. Then when we get there, I quite literally ask them to hire ask their higher self if we're allowed to go, because not everybody's allowed to go.

SPEAKER_01: 25:07

That's right.

SPEAKER_00: 25:07

It's not always part of what's best for your therapeutic journey. And typically, you know, people who who go who say, Yep, yep, we can go, uh, it's these are people that have spent a lot of time on their development journey. People who are generally new to considering, boy, oh boy, I've got a mind, and my mind is the center of everything, they tend to get the not yet answer. But when you're in that deeper state, you can ask those questions, and your clients, you know, the you know, Hillary has something on the board in our office that says, you know, a first answer, best answer. We can receive messages if we're just allowed them to happen, right? Um, if we listen rather than think, right? And so, you know, these people are in a deep state, and I just say, it's gonna come to you now, it's gonna be a simple yes or no. Can we go to the other side? And then they'll just say yes, and they'll almost be surprised because they got such a clear answer. And then we will we will go. I use a simple, simple technique all the time, it always works. Go figure. I I don't know why, I just use a bridge. We're gonna cross a bridge. And always when I work with clients, I tend to paint a location. I call it the garden. And there's always a stream, and the stream always has a bridge, and they always wonder why there's a bridge there until we finally, in like the fifth or sixth session, cross the bridge, and we go across the bridge, and quite literally, once they cry across the middle of the bridge, the other side shows itself very quickly, and they're they're often, you know, show expressions of surprise on their face as we go. And then we just simply call guides. Whoever's gonna take us through this journey, we call upon them. It's it's always different. I don't know who the heck is gonna come for you. I just know that if you've been told yes, we can go, and you cross the bridge and you see the great vast blue mist, then someone's coming. Just keep your eyes open and wait. And someone often groups of I've had groups of people, I've had teams two and three, and I've had singular guides arrive. And at that point, I literally, my technique is to hand it over to those guides.

SPEAKER_01: 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 27:38

That point, my technique is okay, meet the guides, ask them how we can refer to them, right? And at this point, I just try to help my client have a meaningful interaction with these guides. Sometimes these guides have a plan. No, I shouldn't say that. They always have a plan. They always receive with the a plan of what's going to happen while you're over there. They know what's going to happen. But sometimes it's very, very deliberate and they say, come on, we're going here, and then we're going here, and then we're going here. And this is how you start to discover sort of the places that we all experience on the other side. But the guides almost always turn up with an intention. I try to turn the intention over to them. I try to be helpful, right? And I've literally had it happen where the guides have almost basically said, okay, we'll take it from here. And that's cool. Like I'm happy because we're there for the client, right? And and uh essentially conversations will begin. And what will happen just from the mind being present to the energies, the powers, the presence of the other side. There's such an expansion of awareness of who you are and what you are and why you're here. Without having to go into a lot of details, it just really changes, I think, in my experience, who you think you are. So from there, the guides take it from there. They'll take you off to the side and they'll have conversations with you. You get to ask questions. Uh, my job now as a hypnotist is you have questions, ask them your questions. And then, you know, uh I say, you know, tell me what you want to tell me, so I'll write it down. Because if they're telling you things you want to remember, tell me, and I'll write it down so that you'll be able to remember. Because I do believe you're on a very different vibrational state. You know, our vibrational state really impacts what we do and don't understand. Sometimes we've really got to take ourselves to a higher vibration to understand certain concepts. And the world as a body really takes you down. And so because you're really down, sometimes you'll know things in your higher vibrational state that you just can't access in your lower vibrational state when you're just being a body trying to get through this world. Anyway, with all of that said, that's when the therapy happens. Sometimes that therapy will happen because they're just giving messages. Sometimes that therapy will happen because people just get confirmed to themselves that they have a purpose, that their life has value, that this experience is meaningful, and that it's meant to be a bit difficult. It's meant not to happen easily. Sometimes they'll get taken to their planning, and you can deliberately go to the planning. Some people say they want this experience to go back and view their planning. Part of my experiences in this is I was taken back to the place where I chose my body, which has been a particular issue for me in this life. And what was amazing, what was revealed to me, was a couple of things that I recall. One of the things I recalled is I chose not to be a redhead, that there were I had an opportunity to be a redhead, and I didn't, that I chose this body because it reacts quickly to changes in the way I treat it. So I've always experienced in my life when I when I really embrace my diet, I lose weight quickly. I gain weight quickly. My body really is responsive to the things that I do. And that was part of the reason why I chose the body that I had, because I guess I thought at the time that it would help keep me in line, that I would notice quickly when I was not taking care of myself, that kind of thing. Anyway, sometimes you'll go to that room, you'll get you'll talk about choosing your body. Sometimes you go to the room where you're discussing with the people in your life how you're going to interact. And what's I think very therapeutic for a lot of people when they go to that part is to realize that the people who are the most problematic in their life are people that they love and love them very, very much. It's it's on the other side, it's the people that we're closest to that agree to play these difficult roles. And we agree to play a difficult role for them. And that, you know, I use that often. You know, often when we we are on the other side, it's the opportunity for forgiveness. It's so powerful. So you'll go to these different places, you go to the council to check in, you'll go to your book and see if you're, you know, what your past lies. You can actually just sort of flip through and say, Oh, I was this and I was this and I was this, but we don't focus because remember, it's always about this life. We are doing this to help you live this life, right? You're allowed access to this stuff because it helps you be on track and move forward when you're having difficulty in this life. So that's that's a whole bunch of stuff. And now I'll turn it to you.

SPEAKER_02: 32:51

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm just sort of thinking about what parts to talk about. Do you have any questions for me? Does anybody have any questions to to jog my brain right now?

SPEAKER_00: 33:02

What's your personal experience with the other side?

SPEAKER_02: 33:04

Like my like something I've gone through.

SPEAKER_00: 33:07

Yeah. You can talk about what you've been through as a hypnotist afterwards.

SPEAKER_02: 33:12

My personal experience with the other side is sorry. I'm trying to think of which one to talk about. There's been little tiny pieces that I've that I've had, but I suppose it's a it's a real sense of being on track, being supported through my life, through my decisions, understanding understanding that I'm meant to be working with people. When I go to the other side, there's a there's a deep sense of belonging. What's coming to me now are I suppose those two little mini experiences where well I'll never know if I actually died, but certainly feels like it when I think about them, knowing what I know now. When I was 21 and 31, I had two experiences where I was early morning and sleeping. And at 21, I ended up going through this magnificent tunnel, and it was just full of color, and I was like just shooting through it. It felt, you know, when I when I feel it right now, it feels like I'm going upward, sort of on an angle, and just these be this beautiful choir in the background getting louder and louder and louder, not singing anything specific, just this oh, like louder and louder and louder, and then coming back into my body and waking up. And then the second experience at 31 was sort of being laying down on a beach with waves sort of going over the bottom of my legs, and then lifting out of my body into uh horizontally into this beautiful light, and that feeling, that feeling of connection and peace and love, that everything was okay. And I remember so well, uh, this is 10 years ago now, almost 12 years ago, or almost 11 years ago, saying to myself, I'm dying and I'm okay with that. I was so okay, it was more than okay. And then I thought about you, and I thought, oh, I don't want to, I don't want to leave him. So then I slammed back into my body and jolted up. And and I suppose along my journey with hypnosis and understanding past lives and life-betweens, and helping those that have gone through it, death and coming back and uh integrating their spirit with the body again and helping them understand the other side, integrating their experience, understanding their experience, getting more from their experience, even. I think without those two experiences, I may not have that insight, maybe, you know, to help. But yeah, I'm can you think of anything specific that you want me to talk about?

SPEAKER_00: 36:27

Well, now talk about your experience with clients. You've taken lots of clients over to the other side. What could somebody what why would somebody want to go? Why do they end up going sometimes? Because that's for me, you know, somebody will come into the office and I'll say, no, no, no, we're we're taking a trip to the other side today. It's just been clearly given to me that that's what we're supposed to do today. So just put on your seatbelt, let's go. And and sometimes it's been right in the middle of a session where I thought, oh no, we gotta, we gotta cross the bridge for a few minutes.

SPEAKER_02: 37:06

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, clients usually want to go to the other side. They they've seen me on an interview or something like that, and they they they have this this desire to know if they're on their plan. Spoiler alert, you're on your plan. There are many, many, uh dare I say infinite ways of moving through your life based on choices, and you're always celebrated at the end, right? So if you think you've messed up or you're not on your plan, you are on your plan. Maybe it's a little more difficult, and so it feels like you're not on your plan. Maybe there's a choice that you made before you even came here to Earth, and you feel really compelled towards the you feel really drawn towards that choice or that light life right now, and you're maybe not experiencing it yet, but you at a soul level know it's there, know it's coming. But that can feel really confusing to the human, right? That can feel like, well, I'm not on my plan because I I feel like I should be here. I feel like, but it's coming, it's coming, right? You cannot avoid what you've set up for yourself. How you get there is another story. I love telling this story because it really just shows shows us how how much, how many different ways we could be living our life. I didn't work with her directly, but this woman, and I feel like I've told this story recently actually, but that's okay. So this woman was in was on tour in the army, and her her when they get in their trucks and they drive across, they hit a landmine and she died, but came back. But when she died, she was with her, a guide of hers, and they were going through this. So she describes it as a roll of deck, sort of flipping through these ideas of, well, you have to go back, you're going back, but how do you want to go back? Do you want to be blind in one eye? Do you want to be missing an arm? Do you want to be in a wheelchair? Do you want to be right? And it was almost they were laughing about it, like, oh my gosh, wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't that be interesting? Wouldn't that be really a thing to learn, you know, from? And anyway, she she comes back and and tells this story. And it's just fascinating because it just shows how this is such an illusion. Yeah. And I don't know, like I can't even wrap my mind around it. I mean, after all the sessions and and NDEs I've watched and people with near-death experiences that I've helped. And I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around like, well, how does she choose something? And then wouldn't it have already been decided? Or I don't know, like how does the rest of her life play out? And how does everybody have the next what they do and how they interact with her all laid out in their mind already? And is it on different like maybe she maybe in one dimension she chose her arm to be missing, in the other dimension she chose her eye to be blind? Or I I don't know. Like it's multiverse. Yeah, it just can make your head spin.

SPEAKER_00: 40:43

Yeah, to have fun with that idea, but it's what's come to me really quickly is there's a a TV show on Apple called Dark Matter. And that's a really cool representation of that. And of course, go watch Doctor Strange in the multiverse, and you get a sense of the possibilities in an artistic presentation way. I'm not saying they are what's right or that they are what's wrong. I'm just saying that they they're neat ways to evoke some thought about it. And maybe you might find that you resonate with parts of it, have a deep sense of that's true. That's that's a good, you know, representation of it. So you might have a really good experience doing that. Anyway, yeah, it's a form of regression because it's in the past, it's a deeper awareness of who you really are. Yeah, when I had one experience with guides in hypnosis, they uh said to me, I was dealing with what I thought was like a real life crisis. I was going through what I thought was like a dark night of the soul kind of experience. And I was dealing with sort of a concept. But the the point was is that the guide says, Well, you thought it would be fun to sort of face that in this life. I'm thinking, what could be possibly fun about this? And almost insulted, yeah, that I'm taking myself sort of too seriously. And I think that that's part of the value of a life between lives experience, is that you know, the it's been said and I like it, and I try to remind myself of it, you know, enlightening to become enlightened is to lighten up. Yeah, you start to see things in a different perspective, you interpret them differently. And that's not to say that this life is not important, that's not to say that the that what you're going through in this life is not really important and valuable and um necessary for your growth and absolutely an experience that's really challenging. That's not to dismiss it or to belittle it because you're doing it, you're doing it because it's gonna guide you someplace else, it's gonna lead you towards more, it's gonna lead you to a greater understanding. And so, as much as we want to be like what we don't want to be is frivolous or dismissive.

SPEAKER_02: 43:17

Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's so much we could talk about here. Maybe we need a maybe tomorrow we extend it. I wanted to talk about contracts and past life and interlife ways we we put things aside that maybe we're done with, and maybe talk about more about near-death experience or uh near-death experiences. I think people have interest in that. It can be a whole week of soul.

SPEAKER_00: 43:43

And I really encourage you, you know, if any of this stuff interests you, any of this stuff triggers you, reach out, we can send all kinds of resources to you. And I think that, you know, my personal journey through all of this stuff was very individualized. I it was me reading books, it was me watching videos, it was me meditating, it was me discovering. And uh there's lots to be discovered. Yes, you can know. It's absolutely possible to know, but first you have to believe that it's possible to know. Um, and if you believe that it's not possible to know, then you won't. And that's the barrier. It's the opening and closing of your own mind's doors. So I really encourage you to reach out if you'd like to reach out and check out the resources we're talking about, Michael Newton's book. You know, what's the guy's name? Moody? Is it Richard Moody?

SPEAKER_02: 44:34

Raymond Moody.

SPEAKER_00: 44:34

Raymond Moody, thank you. You know, he wrote a really good book, one of the first books on this stuff. If you do just a little bit of looking, you'll find, you know, if you do a Google search of scientific study of near-death experiences, you'll find that there's a lot of scientists who take this stuff really seriously and they put a lot of energy into it. So there's a lot of information out there about this stuff. And of course, we're here and we're happy to hypnotize you and take you to where you need to go.

SPEAKER_02: 45:06

All right. In the chat sounds great. So, yeah, tomorrow we'll we'll extend it and talk about near-death experiences and contracts and all that fun stuff. Right. So, have a wonderful day and enjoy your Thursday, and we'll see you later.