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How To Reframe Fear And Move Anyway: Part 1
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We unpack why change feels threatening, how loneliness and habit shape resistance, and what it takes to move anyway. We share our plan to sell our home, simplify, and build an online hypnosis platform while using practical tools to reframe fear and take action.
• winter introspection and the pull toward comfort
• fear as a warning not a wall
• tribal wiring, aloneness and the unknown
• motivated change versus imposed change
• perfection paralysis and identity attachment to stuff
• decluttering as a ritual of choice
• eat the frog and daily willpower practice
• anterior mid cingulate cortex and effort
• community as antidote to fear
• reframing inherited scripts about stability and success
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SPEAKER_01:Cold morning.
SPEAKER_00:Cold winter morning.
SPEAKER_01:I have a foggy head.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we're both kind of kind of foggy.
SPEAKER_01:It's funny how the winter makes you sort of sort of curl inward.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And eat bad food. I think my foggy head comes from spending a week beating lots and lots of bread.
SPEAKER_01:I guess we did, didn't we?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Last week I had I worked in town a lot and I ate so many sandwiches, it was unbelievable. That's a natural seasonal transition hibernation time. That's right.
SPEAKER_01:I still believe that. I still believe that we're meant to hibernate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, maybe not like a bear, but certainly certainly take shelter.
SPEAKER_01:I feel sorry for the bears up there trying to sleep through this cold.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god. Yeah. So it's snowy and probably a bit crunchy. The seeds are covered in snow. And there's mist rising from the center of the lake. It's really beautiful looking.
SPEAKER_01:It is.
SPEAKER_02:It is.
SPEAKER_01:In the mornings, enjoy some nature. I think it's really helpful. And I think it's really hard for people to do.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it is because we're we're our society is constructed so that we have to go, we have to go to work. Oh my gosh, I had a it just reminded me of a dream I had this morning of like I was in university again and coming back on the weekend to you. And the roads were black ice. And I like crashed one time, but I was in somebody else's car crashing it. And then I went back to get my car, and I'm like, maybe I don't want to crash this car. So I'm like calling you to try to figure something out.
SPEAKER_01:You do it.
SPEAKER_00:Right. No. Amen. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So we got a couple of topics floating around this morning. Which one do you want to talk about? There you go. You get to make the choice.
SPEAKER_00:Oh good. Well, well, apparently they sort of go together. So we were thinking about talking more about comforting. And then also with that, uh is something that clients experience a lot when I take them through sessions, and and that is why change can be so scary. Why change can be so scary.
SPEAKER_01:Well, whatever we don't talk about today, I'm gonna talk about tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So yeah, let's talk about because it's top of mind for me. You know, I have some changes going on in in my life, our life, and I was yeah, scared yesterday. There's those little scary, little scary changes. Just those little changes, you know. So I was thinking about it this morning and I thought, well, it's hard, you know, it's hard when it's us going through it. It's easy when we have clients going through it. Oh yeah, it's linked to that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I know this is where it's coming from. But when it's our own mind, it's a little more a little more puzzle pieces, it feels like you gotta figure out where they go. So I was thinking this morning, it's sort of tied, I think, to the unknown, right? Change, unknown. And then I thought when I first signed up to go to pickleball, we were doing little pickleballs together, like as a little group, having fun. But when it came to the uh pickleball at the park, that was a different story, and I was scared, and so I was thinking, yeah, I was scared of the unknown for that, and I felt alone, you know. So going into it, I didn't know anybody. I was trying so hard to get, you know, some of our pickleballers in there as well, so that I had somebody, you know, we had each other. But the feeling was feeling alone, and then I was thinking, well, why would the feeling of being alone be scary? And it's sort of bringing me back to, you know, hundreds of thousands or God knows how long ago, if we aren't in a tribe, our safety is at risk.
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I think our our biologically, hundreds of thousands, if not more, years ago, we would be in small tribes. And if we were ousted or alone, just alone in in general, that could be scary because that was the unknown. That was the unknown, and our our survival at that point is at risk. So I feel like nowadays, as human beings, we go through not really that kind of issue any longer, but we go through lots of different issues where change happens, and suddenly our base brain, our reptilian brain, let's say, from that many years ago, kicks in and says, No, wait a minute, you have to stay safe, you have to stay in your shelter that you have now, you can't go out there, you can't do that stuff, you can't be alone, you can't, you know, don't do it. And so the fear kicks in to try to stop us. And it's an interesting kind of fear when you have, let's say, you know, when I did the psychic show during the summer, I had fear going into that. And I I did feel a little alone, right? Because I didn't really know anyone. I knew one person that was, you know, keeping me going. And I remember driving there and I had a very, very much a freeze moment where I thought I could just put on the brakes and turn around and just go home. Like this, this, you know, I I can just do that. I can just do that. And it was like a chocolate bar. Like I was like, I can do that, I can do that. All right. It was like a it was like chocolate on the horizon that I was veering towards. And that thought was very satisfying. But then I thought, no, no, no, I'm gonna go and have fun and see what happens, and maybe I'll sell a few things. We'll see. So that was sort of easy to get through. That was a little change, it was a day, it was, you know, I could get through that. But changes that are changes that bring up fear that you know you have to move through the fear. Like there's no, there's no not, there's no turning around. That's a little that that is that is big, I think. That's big when it comes to feeling that aloneness, feeling that fear of the unknown, and still choosing to power through it. And these are like big life changes that I'm talking about, right? These aren't just going to a little psychic fair, right? And so I think there's a big difference in those feelings, and and you know, what do we have to do? What do we have to feel? What do we have to move through in order to keep moving through that fear? Right. My fear of the psychic fair lasted, what, 10 minutes to get there? Maybe, maybe three minutes of that 10 minutes. I was like, okay, maybe I can turn around. Right? What if change is on your horizon and you have to go through it? Like, it's not three minutes of fear, it's up and down roller coaster fear all the way into it.
SPEAKER_01:And motivation is important, isn't it? Because when you're motivated to make a change, you've got uh some form of vision ahead of you that you're you're looking at creating. So if you're changing a daily habit, you know, I'm gonna give up coffee, I'm gonna go to the gym, I'm gonna start getting up earlier, I'm going to, you know, put more effort into my work. These are all changes that you can be really resistant to, but you have a reason to sort of push yourself into them, or there is a somewhat of a personal gain driving force. And sometimes change is just imposed on you because you're in a position that um is responsive as opposed to planning. You know, things change at work, people you work with change, the seasons change, you know, change where you're you've you've got sort of the feeling of being imposed upon. It just sort of kicks up feelings of resistance, you know. It's amazing how we protect our habits, it's amazing how we resist the change. And we think about all the things that we changes that we want, and we can see through them to some achievement. And when we think through changes that we don't want, it's hard to really see anything past the resistance. How do I make us go back to the old way? How do what what can I do to to keep things the way they are?
SPEAKER_00:But why do we strive to keep things just as they are?
SPEAKER_01:Great question. What do you think?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I think it goes back. I I really do believe in that reptilian brain, you know, the just going back to our base needs, our base forms of security and safety and love and acceptance. And I think that when we think of something being different, yeah, it's it's scary. It's scary. It's why we have routines, that's why we like going to the same places, or yeah. I think I think it all goes back to biology.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think that one of the the critical ideas is how we see safety in what's familiar, even when we don't like it. Right? There's safety in what's familiar, which implies that change is dangerous.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I do think that internally and externally, there are a lot of forces that try to keep you from change. Internally, you know, you've got habits, right? Habits, we're a habit-creating machine, and we like our habits because we think they make us safe. And we like, even when we don't like how we define ourselves, we still are comfortable with it. And that comfort is way better than the the discomfort of thinking differently, seeking differently, anticipating different things. You know, internally, there is a message, there's a message of fear. Internally, there is a safety and survival rationale for most of the things that you do. It's pretty easy to think back on all the simple things you do in a day and see how they're really designed to keep you healthy, keep you safe, keep things the same.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I think human beings are really blocked by that wall of fear. That's why the reframe is fear is a warning, not a wall. Fear doesn't have to stop you from doing anything. Fear is a warning that says, hey, you know, be careful, you know, keep an eye on things, be alert, keep your attention focused, you know, do what you need to do, but it's not stand there and do nothing. That's typically not a good response to fear. Sometimes we get overwhelmed by it, and that's that freeze instinct. We like to think that there's just fight or flight, but unfortunately, I think we've found ourselves in the habit of freezing, just stopping. And stopping doesn't always turn out badly. Just freezing doesn't always turn out badly. And sometimes we think, you know, the the negative outcome that comes from freezing is not as bad as the negative outcome if I do something wrong.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Chad says we love predictability.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We seek it and we try to create it through our habits. Yeah. I think that there is a human mind, a physical mind, a body mind, I like to refer to it, that's just built right in and trying to do everything in its power to keep things safe, which is typically to keep things the same. So you've got those internal forces, I think, that stop you. And of course, I do believe that the world comes at us when we try to be different, when we try to act different, when we try to, when we try to embrace a change that we want to move forward with, and it essentially, you know, requires change of others. Right? You know, I'm, you know, one of my favorite things to do is go to breakfast with my friends. It's like just one of my favorite things, right? And if I say to them, you know, I'm trying to lose weight, so I'm not going to breakfast as early. Instead of doing breakfast before work, we'll do it, we'll do sort of a breakfast lunch. And then I can honor my sort of fasting, my new fasting routine, where I try to go at least 12 hours between eating. When I finish eating, and I start eating again. And then what that means to my friends is that we they've got to change when they have breakfast or they can't have breakfast with me. You know, we start to make changes that cause other people to be involved and they start to resist. I mean, anything you do, one of the biggest, hardest things about, you know, for a lot of people who are focused on losing weight, they're really focused on changing what they do in the kitchen. They're changing routines around food. And that's especially hard when you happen to be the homemaker. You're the one who makes meals for everybody else, and you're trying to change your meals. And how do you incorporate some of that into the whole of everyone's eating? And how do you differentiate your eating from others? And then there's all that natural resistance that comes up in the most subtle, most kind ways. You know, just a child saying, What's that? Why are you eating that? Right? And and, you know, I've got to go shopping and I've got to buy something different than what I normally buy. Well, why are we eating this today? And, you know, there's this natural tendency for everyone around you to resist change. And, you know, then you have really big picture stuff, right? Really big picture stuff. So let's say the whole world believes that the best thing you can do with your life is pick a community, move into it, own a home, and stay there, and pay off that home, and put all your money and all your effort into that home. And, you know, cut the grass a certain way and maintain your property a certain way, and put up your seasonal decorations in a certain way. The world has a lot of beliefs around that, and people are very, very bought into that because they have their routines, and their routines make them comfortable. And the weather is cold, so we expect to see Christmas lights everywhere. And you just happen to say, no, I'm not really interested in putting up Christmas lights. No, I'm I'm not interested in maintaining my lawn the way everybody else does. No, I'm not interested in owning a home. I think that there are better things I can do with my money. No, I don't want to be tied down in one place for an extended period of time. I actually enjoy change. There are people out there that actually enjoy change, right? And all of those people are met with the resistance that they're not buying into the program, that they're not seeing so one of the changes, and I think this is what stimulates Hillary, is one of the changes is that we're selling our home and we're moving, and we don't even know where yet. The change is going to be all about shifting our focus, and shifting our focus from a home that requires constant work, constant attention, to something else. Uh, a life where we are less focused on our home and more focused on our work. You know, this business we're trying to build requires huge amounts of time, huge amounts of effort and different effort, because it isn't like you know, taking an appointment with a client and going to the office and sitting across from the chair and guiding them through hypnosis. This is about how do we create online hypnosis for everybody so that we put together the stuff that we've learned that really helps a lot of people, has helped a lot of people, and turn it into helping hundreds of thousands of people because it's accessible online and able to do in your own home. And how do you do that? And I find myself just, you know, when I when I have a client in the chair, just really, really hand it over. I trust my higher self, I trust my higher instincts, I trust that I will be guided to do what's best for that person in the chair. And I follow those instincts, and yeah, it works out well. I'm just really, I can't say it any other way. It has been really, really positive in terms of the way it helps others. But now, how do I turn that into a 10-minute talk followed by a recorded meditation? And that's different because now there isn't, you know, this external person sitting in the chair with my flipping the script to, you know, my higher self. Now I have to create and trust myself and trust that my higher self is there, even though there isn't a person in the chair. And it's a different kind of experience. And then now I'm such a I just get paralyzed in perfection. Like, you know, I think perfect perfect is a stupid concept. I teach that all the time. And here I am trying to be perfect, trying to get it. Right, trying to do it the way I somehow in my my mind think it should. Anyway, the the point is is all of this is very different. And it's very easy then when you're making the change to just become paralyzed, just to become completely, you know, immovable.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. Chat says frozen in fear.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's that freeze response.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's I think for me on this journey, there's going to be days where I'm up and excited, and days where I'm yeah, frozen in fear, I suppose. And I think it is, the more I thought about it this morning, I think it is about having a change in community. I I know I'm I'm feeling more like I'm not I'm not losing my community. It's not like it's going out the window and it's gone forever. It's just going to sort of change. And so I don't even know. My fear brain is has totally kicked in, and I'm just I don't even know what to say anymore.
SPEAKER_01:It doesn't help that I just said this out loud in public like this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, my my stomach dropped as soon as you said it. I I did not expect that.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_00:Change.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't start this morning with that expectation either. But sometimes that's how you deal with change. Sometimes the way you deal with change is you accept it and you embrace it, and then you do things that are consistent with it. And that's the magic. The magic is starting to do things that are consistent with it. You know, nothing's going to change unless your mind changes. That's the fact. That's the truth. That's the way we are. It's all about the mind. That's the human, human thing. We train these minds very, very young. We get them deeply, deeply entrenched in habits and beliefs that this is the way the world works, and this is the way it has to be. And this is what this is what a smart person does. This is what a good person does. This is what an honorable person does. We have all these definitions. And even if we didn't say, I agree, they're in there. So what's that like to say to yourself, you know what? I never agreed to that. I'm not going to be part of that.
SPEAKER_00:For what? Sorry, I'm gonna for anything. For anything.
SPEAKER_01:For anything. I never agreed that the smartest thing human beings can do is own their own home.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I see what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01:I never agreed with that. I never agreed that the best thing you should do is go get yourself a good job. I never agreed with that. You should stay in the same work for the whole of your life. I never agreed to that. And, you know, me, I've done my best to sneak my way around that. And even though I've still found myself doing things for long periods of time, you know, I've made some pretty drastic, dramatic changes in my career that I was so pleased that I did. I was so much more excited about my life when I walked away from something that just didn't allow my joy to come out anymore. I was more buried in the pain and suffering than I was in the natural joy that I had experienced when I started these parts of my career. And here we are again, you know, trying to make choices. And I really believe in my heart, like it's I know in my heart that the act of making choices, of saying that this choice doesn't serve me anymore, this behavior, this habit, it just doesn't serve me anymore. And I need to make a change. I need to most of the time, it's I need to stop that somehow, right? I need to stop feeling owned by my home, is one of the big ones for me right now. I need to stop feeling like what I own, the stuff that I have around me matters. Right? It's amazing how you can look at things as accomplishments, or you can just look at them as accumulation, right? And that's okay. Like other people are listening to me right now, they're thinking I'm nuts. But part of part of change is knowing that others are gonna resist your changes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, is some people are gonna resist, some people are going to wish that they could do the same. Some people are gonna be happy. Yeah. In the chat it says, and by by putting it out there by saying it out loud, your community knows what you are doing and they can support you. And what we have once loved has now become burdensome for stuff, material.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we got rid of some stuff this weekend. We started the process of trying to get rid of all the stuff we don't need. So step one was just cleaning the house. How many boxes of stuff did we produce that we realized just don't need this anymore?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, a few.
SPEAKER_01:And we sold three or four, five things.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, things are selling fast right now. I think it's a good time of year to sell stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And just stuff that sits in drawers or in closets or, you know, that that was bought with good intention but never got used.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, how much of that do you have in your home? How much of stuff do you hang on to? You know, we I was talking, I guess we were talking with Barb and we were talking with you, and just talking about this silly, you know, when I was 20, I moved to the Yukon and worked on drilling regions. And anybody who knows me knows that that was a long time ago. Dinosaurs were and I brought home a piece of drill core just because it was like a souvenir, just to show what I'd been doing for so long. Because I spent a year up there, best part of a year. Anyway, it's still in a box. It's sitting in a box in my closet, and it's just a rock. It's a long cylindrical piece of rock. Anybody wants it, they can have it. And yet I carry it around and I carry it around and I carry it around. And the person I was then is so dramatically different than the person that I am now in just about every measurable way. And uh, yeah, the things we cling to, right? The things we can't let go of.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Over the Christmas holidays, I haven't had it yet. But years past, I've helped clients who have transitions in their life and they're looking to get rid of Christmas decorations at this time of year. Like they're they're going through their boxes of stuff and they put what they want out, but there's other decorations that have been passed down or something. And they feel bad for getting rid of them. And so we go through hypnosis to get rid of these decorations. And so there's sort of this reframe, I guess it would be a reframe that I take them through. And it's this idea that each decoration has its own life, its own energy. And imagine that decoration now going to a new life, right? Imagine a little family or someone wanting that decoration and a new story for that decoration, right? It'd be a great children's book, I think, now that I think about it. And but when it's when when it goes out there into Sally Ann, or if it's, you know, passed down to somebody else, or if you give it away, it's going to create a new energy and it and a new story. And that's a imagine how exciting that is for the object. We're we're sort of putting human traits or human, what is that called when you put humanness onto an object?
SPEAKER_01:Anthropomorphize?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. And that seems to have a huge impact on it. So on releasing the stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think it's important to differentiate between change that you want and change that's imposed on you. I think those are two different, very different experiences. And if we focus right now on the idea of change that you want, there are aspects of changes that you want that are hard, that are difficult, that there's going to be resistance because you are a habit-making machine and you like your habits and you like thinking a certain way. And now you have to think differently and then act differently. And you're not going to act differently if you don't think differently, right? If you're not actively changing what's in your subconscious mind, you can't really expect your behavior to change. So any kind of technique that dramatically changes your old way of thinking is the kind of thing that's going to alleviate fear of change. Changes that you want, the first thing we do is reach out to a friend. Will you do this with me? Yeah. Come to pick a ball, please. Would you, would you, would you be part of this with me? Are you interested in making this kind of change? And it gets rid of that sense of aloneness, where I think aloneness is a component of every real fear that impacts us. That sense of aloneness. And there's a lot of ways to get around that sense of aloneness. But the easiest way is to pick up the phone and call a friend, or to get your partner to say, yeah, let's make that change, or to get, you know, the people in your community to rally around a larger change. The internal part, I learned about this about a year ago. And so I've really tried to activate this when I go to the gym. There's a part of your brain, and I've looked it up to make sure I got it right. The anterior mid-singulate cortex. Anterior mid-sigulate cortex. Anyway, it's the center of willpower. It's the center of effort to new things, hard things. And it's actually a part of the brain that grows in the brains of people who constantly engage in hard exercise, unpleasant exercise, that increases your ability to move through something negative. So again, it's like building a new habit. They've said that that part of the brain is enlarged and fortified when you meet people who do that. So, of course, that's that's very common in the minds or the brains of military people. Because you're constantly being told to do things they don't want to do, right? They have to hand over their control to somebody else, and then they have to fight their way through it. If you're going to the gym, again, the same thing. If you're going on a diet, same thing. There's a neat book that I read once, and I thought it was kind of funny, but there's a lot of truth to it. And the book was called Eat That Frog. And the idea was that every day we have things we don't want to do. Every day we have a long-to-do list. And one of those things, at least on that long-to-do list, is something we just don't want to do. Don't think we know how to do, not sure how to approach, really kicks up the fear, really kicks up the anxiousness around it. There's always something we know we need to do that we just can't seem to bring ourselves to doing it. And in the book, he equates that to eating a frog. Right. And so the idea is eat that frog. Now, I don't like, I don't like being, you know, when I work with people, I don't like being insistent. I don't like being a bully. I don't like doing that. Come on now, just do it. Right. Being that kind of, you know, discipline, disciplinarian. Come on, you just gotta do this. And and I don't, I don't like that approach. I don't think that's a helpful approach. I think we're better off to just understand what's going on for the person. No matter how, no matter how you might dismiss the internal state of another person as being silly or being just wrong or just being ridiculous. Like we we we have that tendency to approach others with that and say, come on, just get over it. Come, just move on. Come on, just get it done. Right. And I don't think that those kinds of moments are helpful. I don't think that that kind of talk to others is helpful because it's really, you know, if it if they could just do it, they would have just done it, right? There's something going on internally that is creating an emotional wall to doing that. And you're better off to find that wall. You're better off to try to understand what built that wall. You're better to understand how to unbuild the wall and build a new one. Anyway, but the book was interesting because it it said, look, every day there's going to be things you don't want to do, but you know they're going to be good for you. You know they're going to lead to things that are good. And he called that the frog you have to eat. And the idea was simple. You know, first thing in the day, the first thing you do is eat the frog. The first thing you do, the top of your to-do list is the thing you most not want to do. And most of us are just masters of putting that thing on the list and letting it keep dropping down. You know, one of the amazing things we do is we find other things to do than eat that frog. And we do those things first. And we we try to trick ourselves into feeling accomplished. Look at the list. I had 10 things on my list. Now I've got seven of them done. But the seven were all easy. You were going to do them anyway. And the frog just keeps dropping down the list. But understanding that that could be considered a practice. Right? You enhance and fortify that part of your brain, that that anterior mid-singulate cortex. And just like I'm going to do, you know, I'm going to do squats to build my legs at the gym. I can choose to do something I don't want to do. I can fight through my resistance and build that anterior mid-singulate cortex in my brain and make it stronger because habit will make it stronger. Practice will make it bigger physically. It will become something that I'm capable of doing. And we've all had the experience where we've just sort of, you know, they call it rolling up your sleeves. We've just rolled up our sleeves and take a deep breath and then just do it. And if you were in the habit of doing that regularly in your life, daily in your life, you would build up the ability to move through those resistances when you have at least the internal motivation to say, I want to make a change.
SPEAKER_00:And I think that that thing that's always on our list that we put off and put off and put off. I don't know about you, but every time I actually get to doing it, I I think afterwards, oh my God, that took like 10 minutes. Or you know, that that was not something to keep putting off. So I can see why trying to do it every day first, whatever is that hardest thing, or the thing that you perceive is the hardest thing to do. I could see how thinking over and over again, oh, that wasn't that bad, could help build that resilience and that that ability to challenge yourself more often.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's like burpees at the gym. I don't know anybody that says burpees, oh boy.
SPEAKER_00:I think Brian does.
SPEAKER_01:Oh boy, I get to do burpees. And I think if somebody says that, it's because they're trying to build this this habit of overcoming their resistance and their tendency to label things as good or bad and the bad stuff we avoid and the good stuff we indulge.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I think we should talk tomorrow about how to deal with change that's imposed on you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, when you said that, I thought, what would be imposed on them? You know, but I I thought about our conversation last week early last week, about it was it was that rabbit hole conversation where we went deep on some interesting topics and just having being open to not grasping onto your ego and your who you think you are, being open to change as things as things change and shift in the world at large.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I think that we've always focused in our podcast and in our work on the process of helping people reframe things. Think of them differently, think of them more accurately, think of them more truthfully, think of them more helpfully. And I think that the more we do that, the better we get at naturally coming up with reframes that are helpful. But I do believe that it's probably in everyone's best interest to learn how to reframe for themselves, to find that higher, that higher truth, that higher attainment, that that higher achievement that comes from thinking of things differently. Until you think of things differently, nothing's gonna change, right? So as we think about packing boxes and moving on, yeah, it's up to us to learn to reframe, to think and anticipate the positive newness, the exciting new things, the adventure of discovery, the embracing of the freedom that comes from having a lot less stuff, having no place that holds me down. I mean, the the reframe for me is just always my home is myself. My home is me and the people I love, my home is me and what I create. My home is me and my state of mind. And when that is well, I can be anywhere. I can be anywhere if I am well, if I am good with me, if I am comfortable in my surroundings, and I move myself from new place to new place. That's exciting, you know. And for me, that's part of my reframe in this in this period of my life right now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Uh uh as we cap off here, something just came to mind about being in a new community. And just it's it's almost like starting high school and you just want people to like you, you know? And yeah, it's that feeling at first of being alone and just hoping that for me at least, I I I like to have community, whatever that looks like, whether it's two people or ten people, whatever. But yeah, that that feeling like I hope I fit in.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that just leads me to say, you know, uh I I do my best to try to, when I speak in podcasts, to try to speak to everybody. And I suppose that's not always helpful because it holds me back from saying some of the things that I think are really important. So maybe if you're listening, you're open to this idea and you can find it helpful. On my lowest physical level, I'm really never alone. There's always somebody in my life that I can turn to, even if they get frustrated with me. But on my true self-level, and we've just discovered this way too many times with clients, clients who are adamantly against this idea have the discovery of the truth of this idea, and it changes their lives. There are too many people that in the last couple of years, I've watched them make major shifts when they accept the idea that they are never alone, that they are one with the whole, that they have guides, they have beautiful beings who long before we started this journey promised to be here with us and available to us and help us navigate our way through. And what happens is we convince ourselves that we're alone, we convince ourselves that that no one is helping us. And that's just the process of hypnosis, right? The process of hypnosis of going into a deep state and being told by others and accepting it as true, and then building this limiting belief that says, I am alone. It isn't true. And so if you're in a position now in your life to start opening your mind to that idea that you're not alone, that there are guides and they are right there, that this experience on this planet is one of thousands you're going to have, is always done as a team with guides on the other side. You're changing the context of your life. If you're ready to embrace that, if you're capable of embracing that, if you want to explore that really, please reach out to us. If you'd like to some guidance on how to make that connection, to open your mind to that, you know, it's part of what we do. We've done for many people who have really made major changes in their lives because they realize they're never alone and that they're always safe. And, you know, I'm yeah, we are all eternal children of the universe. Nothing can change that. So if you're ready to hear that, think about that. I hope that helps. And if you're not ready to hear that, then you know, build your anterior singlet cortex, right? Like build that. That's your brain, that's there, no argument. And so engage in practices that help you get better and better at better at doing things that you're resistant to. And you can practice that like you would go to the gym, and it will work and it will make a difference.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that was a good chat. Welcome to our world. Okay, so if you want to reach out wherever you're listening to this, in the description below, there will be email, website. There's um a link to our school if you want to sign up. But yeah, I think that's it for today. Thanks for hanging out. And if you want to join us live, sign up for our school where the link will be every day. Every day it's a different link just for safety and uh security purposes. But yeah, join the school and access the link there. Okay, have a good day, everyone.
