Aliens, AI, Blockchain and Your Identity: Going Down The Rabbit Hole Today Folks

We explore how identity acts as the hidden frame behind every choice, then stress test it against UFO disclosure, AI acceleration, digital IDs, CBDCs, and debates over UBI. We ask listeners to loosen rigid self-stories, update faster, and find purpose beyond job titles and politics.

• stripping labels to find the stable self beneath
• how belief in authority shapes what seems true
• UFO disclosure as a thought experiment for hierarchy
• AI, digital ID, CBDCs and the new money rails
• cashless habits and the real costs of payments
• UBI, work, and what people are for
• politics as identity and a source of division
• pyramids, science updates, and context collapse
• Thomas King example and personal reinvention
• practical ways to loosen identity grip

Chapters

• 0:00 Frozen Morning And Setting The Stage
• 0:51 What Is Identity, Really
• 3:16 UFO Disclosure And Belief Authority
• 7:15 Star Trek Scenario And Social Hierarchies
• 10:29 Context Shapes Choices And Worldview
• 13:20 Simulation Talk And Manifestation Spectrum
• 16:20 Sentient Biologics And Mortgage Joke
• 18:20 Aliens, AI, And Financial Reset
• 21:40 Money Rails, CBDCs, And Digital ID
• 26:06 Cash, Costs, And Friction In Payments
• 28:26 Imminent Digital Currencies And Resistance
• 31:10 Purpose, UBI, And Human Motivation
• 35:02 Flexibility Of Self And Pyramids Rethink
• 38:12 Religion, Power, And Identity Shocks
• 40:10 Thomas King And Personal Reinterpretation

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:08

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It's cold outside.

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It's crunchy cold.

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Mine is ten. Craziness.

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It's nose hair freezing day. Frozen nose hair day.

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Yeah, don't breathe in too hard. Your nose will freeze together.

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Yeah.

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Cold day, but that makes it sunny. Clear sky. It's frozen right across. Usually the river stays partially open.

SPEAKER_00: 0:39

Yeah, it's funny. What in the chat? Raining in nine degrees. What is that?

SPEAKER_02: 0:46

The extremes of weather.

SPEAKER_00: 0:48

Honestly.

SPEAKER_02: 0:51

So this is a funny topic because it comes at us from some really funny directions, but it's not funny because people take this stuff very seriously. We're gonna talk about identity. Identity, my identity, my self-definition, yeah, my story that I tell myself about myself, my story that I tell others about myself, about who and what I am, and what that means. And, you know, I suppose if I had any intent with this podcast, because it comes to us from what we consider to be pretty funny directions, I would like to think that all of us can be a little more light-hearted about our identity, a little bit less convinced that our story about ourselves is possibly wrong, possibly missing some of its most important elements, possibly unnecessary because we are right, we exist, we are here. I am, and then everything else is the I am that I tell myself about myself.

SPEAKER_00: 2:15

Yeah, I think I meant I mentioned in a podcast, well, maybe last week or the week before, just stripping away all the personality, even your uniqueness, you know, what you your job, who you think you are in this life, and what is underneath all that? What's what is at the base of all that? Because there is something. There is something, and it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02: 2:40

And in many respects, we create our identity as a comparison to others. My identity is what makes me unique, which makes me distinct from all the others, and my uniqueness and my independence and my individualized value is important, but sometimes when it's based on certain things, it can be taken away. So, you know, the the first thing that came to us was the idea. Um, I don't know if you're following the news. Hold on, but there's a whole lot of stuff. This to me is a whole lot of fun. It's gonna shake up the whole world, it's gonna shake up the whole world's identity, right? This the stuff that, you know, in the US, their government is really pushing for disclosure. What are UFOs, UAPs is what they call them now. I don't know. Some of you have just dismissed all of this and stuck it on a shelf, but a lot of you are like right into this. Joe Rogan was on TV last night being interviewed about disclosure, and he's really convinced that there's a whole lot more going on there. And so, you know, for just a moment, suspend your disbelief because there's a lot of people who say we're on the verge of acknowledging that we're not alone in the universe. Now, acknowledging it doesn't make it true or false, it just makes it okay for people to think that. Yeah, and I think that's an important distinction, right? Yeah, like if we're gonna acknowledge it, okay. If we're not gonna acknowledge it, okay. But there's a lot of evidence that this is this is like old news.

SPEAKER_00: 4:39

Yeah, I was thinking, you know, senators are on this, they're going into skiffs, they're learning about what's going on. There's the there's documentary, a documentary came out this week. I can't remember exactly what it's got, disclosure in the title, but I I thought to myself, when do I believe this? Like wholeheartedly. Like, does does does the president of the United States need to come on stage and say, we're not alone for me to finally, you know, but so many people are are talking about it now. It's absolutely insane. But I don't think, I don't think if you're not watching this stuff like we are, I'm not so sure it's in your in your vision, right? I don't think that many people know what's going on in the skiffs and like this the senators coming out and talking about this and pushing for it, pushing for it from what they're learning.

SPEAKER_02: 5:38

And the disclosure and the whistleblowers, that like there's just dozens and dozens of people coming forward. And yeah, I mean, if your identity of yourself includes a world where there are people, beings from other planets who have and will visit Earth, if that includes, if that's included in your identity that you live in that kind of world, this might not be a big deal for you. You're saying, yeah, of course. I've always thought that. You know, some people require other people to tell them what is true. That's always baffled me. I've always wanted to own that myself, but it doesn't mean that my head isn't filled with all kinds of bogus information because I accepted it from somebody else, right? That's just to say that some people like to think, like me, like to pretend in my identity, that I'm I'm really filled with critical thinking ability and I'm cautious about what information I allow into my structure of reality, my view of the world as a whole. But, you know, for some people it has to come from some authority somewhere. For some people, it's you know, I don't even trust authorities, right? For some people, it's yeah, it's I if I don't see it, I don't believe it. You know, there's so many approaches. But if your identity gets shifted, let's say for a second, the evidence is just so overwhelming that it's kind of nuts, right? To ignore it. And let's say, you know, we have a Star Trek kind of moment where you know a spaceship flies over top of the city and says, we come in peace, and out come the Vulcans, and the Vulcans start the initial connection between Earth people and the rest of the universe, right? Let's say that kind of thing happens. Well, what happens to your identity? How many elements of your identity? So let's go back to the original story. The original story was some guy in some post somewhere made a comment, and his comment was really simple, but boy oh boy, did I find it enlightening. He said, I wish the aliens would just identify themselves so I can stop paying my mortgage.

SPEAKER_00: 8:05

Right? Because if that were to happen, a society would like the I I I took a deep dive in my mind about this. And I mean, it's just my own deep dive. Doesn't mean it's actually gonna happen or the way I think about it is true. But I I think about I think about hierarchy, right? And at a subconscious level, we as humans, we see hierarchy, even if we don't want to see it, it's sort of there. And we see government as up here, and who's above government? We don't know, you know, four or five people in the world running everything. But if there's suddenly aliens, who's really in charge? Right? And and and where do I fall in that? And yeah, it's just a fascinating, who knows if it'll happen, but it's just a fascinating thing to think about about and so many people agreed with this person.

SPEAKER_02: 9:18

Yeah, like I still see it. Well, there it is, right? Like, how have you constructed your perception of reality that has gotten you to a place to be to some degree satisfied with your life? Where what kind of reality do you have faith in? Maybe that's not the right word, but maybe it it's the most appropriate word. So, what is going on in the world? Who is in charge? What are the rules? What are the rules I should live by? What does that mean about me, who I am? You know, I call it the context. If you take the time to describe who you think you are, what you've really done is set the context for the whole of your life. Because who you really are is gonna determine the decisions you make from there. The way you're gonna resist certain things, the way you're gonna get on board with certain things, the kinds of plans and dreams you create for yourself, your identity, who you are, what you are, what does that mean relative to others, that's gonna define for you so many dimensions of your life. And for me, if if you walked away from this podcast with that new awareness, that the story I tell myself about myself, the story I tell myself about the world is the platform, it's the context from which I make all my decisions. And then somebody shakes that up, right? Somebody shakes that up like they did when, you know, they just they quote unquote discovered the new world, right? When they quote unquote traveled to different parts of the world and then claimed it in colonialism, you know, and we won't we won't say that's good or bad in terms of its craziness, we'll just say that that's that's a phenomenon that happened. And that changed people's view of the world. It's not flat, it's round, you know. These things, these major events that take place, you know, science is a great proponent of that. You know, we've got so much discussion today about is the world a simulation? Because there's so much scientific evidence that the quantum theories are true, that physical reality is just space that collapses out of the field, out of the field of infinite possibilities, and that each one of us as a creative being, having a mind, has the ability to create from that field. These are all things that some people accept, you know, the ability to manifest, the ability to use their mind to create their reality. Some people just deny that, and some people embrace it. And that's part of their context, that's part of the way they see themselves and the way they see the world. And to just sort of embrace the idea that that's a spectrum, you have a lot of options in making the decisions about your context. And there's a lot of evidence to suggest that your context should be a whole lot bigger than you than you have normally lived. And if suddenly we were no longer the only beings in the universe, the only quote unquote intelligent beings in the universe. Um I laugh at because you know, maybe we're we're way down at the bottom of the ladder, right? Maybe we're far from the most intelligent beings in the universe. And there's lots of evidence to suggest that some of the species on the planet live a much better, happier life than human beings do. And maybe that's a kind of intelligence. But anyway, let's let's just let's just loosen our grip on our identity.

SPEAKER_00: 13:31

Yeah. And for anyone wondering, they're calling them, they're calling the pilots sentient biologics.

SPEAKER_02: 13:40

Sentient biologics, isn't that insulting? Yeah. Like a worm. Worm is a sentient biologic. And maybe I'm being mean to worms by saying that. I'm sorry, worms. But like a being is a being. Anyway, so I so you know this comment really just rang true to me. If aliens are here, identify yourself so I can stop paying my mortgage. I have bought into this incredible system of competition, of marketplace where everything needs to be purchased, that somehow this world, nature, provides for all of us, but somebody's in control of it and can decide who uses what parts of it and who gets to profit from it. And this is just a system we've bought into, and that's part of my identity. And when you have as part of your identity, I am a good citizen. Well, holy crap, what does that mean? How many stories does it mean that you accept as part of your context, as part of your identity?

SPEAKER_00: 14:54

Yeah. I don't even know where my mind is right now. Not enough coffee. That's what for that side. Yeah, it started off last night. I was I was thinking about what the heck was I think. Oh, yeah. So if if you're in the world of Les and I, our little bubble world, we are seeing this uh disclosure coming out from the government. And it's not just the US. They're they're talking about it as almost almost like what do you call it? An arm not an arms race. Was it an arms race they were talking about? It's sort of like they're they're uh they they have retrieved craft and they are for years now, years and years and years, they are back. What is the word?

SPEAKER_02: 15:45

Reverse engineering.

SPEAKER_00: 15:46

Reverse engineering how they move technology technology, but they're doing it at at the same time as China, and they're doing it at the same time as Russia. So they're all trying to get to it as fast as possible. Anyway, so I uh so we're we're into that world, and at the same time, there is a financial reset that's happening that we're watching, and they're talking, a lot of people are talking about well, you know, with AI. Oh yeah, AI is like a is like a third thing. So aliens, AI, and a financial reset all coming together at once. And they're talking about implementing in many, many places all around the world this universal basic income. So I was thinking, I wonder if I wonder if when uh disclosure happens, if it happens, if we would need universal basic income because how many people are going to just not go to work anymore? So anyway, it was a big picture kind of out there idea. You know, maybe it has no foundation in reality at all, but it was still fun to think about and interesting. And Les is like, let's podcast about that too. And then I was like, oh God, what did I do?

SPEAKER_02: 17:22

Well well, there are so many shifting things right now in our society. And for many people, it's it's become it's become a war against who they thought they were. Right. And and I think it's part of this incredible political, the politicization of everything. And the eternal question now as to what is your what are your politics? I mean, that the world is getting divided. Countries are dividing themselves, people are dividing them within families. There's so much division right now, as people who see the world as working a certain way, and that they understand how it quote unquote should be, and that there are others who are working against it in a in an extreme conspiracy to create a world that the people of the opposite view are in opposition to and are emotionally and vehemently emotionally opposed to. And at the same time, we have a world that's evolving that's going to just shatter what we think a human being is. And so I really do believe that one of the things you can do for yourself right now is to loosen your grip on what you think is right and wrong, loosen your grip on what you think you are, loosen your grip on what you think is history, because the scientists are just beating the crap out of history today and saying all these things that you were told about what's happened and human beings, that they're just not true. There's so much evidence that contradicts some of our most commonly held beliefs about ourselves. I think that there is a lot of value right now in this really changing world in loosening your grip on what you think must be, and start to ask yourself, you know, what can I change about myself comfortably? What can I care a little bit less about and actually improve my life? I think that the world, well, I think it's pretty obvious to all of us that the world is in some pretty serious change. And those changes are not just coming from, you know, uh one direction, you know, grassroots, grassroots groups of people are seeking change. High-level authorities, globalized authorities, are seeking change. And for you to have a handle on who you are and what you are, and what you value is a good start. And then to say to yourself, okay, what do I value? And what are the parts of that that I don't have to, I don't need to cling to. I think that there's value in that process, in that thinking. So that's really my purpose in this. I come at to it from kind of a hilarious like, what's gonna happen? I mean, what when the when the aliens are now just part of our reality, when there's spaceships floating up in the sky because people are coming to visit and they're not afraid anymore that human beings are gonna lose their minds over it. And and we've got this interstellar galactic awareness that maybe, you know, the stories of our creation are not true. Like, what happens to all these structures on the planet? What happens to all these systems? You know, uh, one of the systems we're paying very close attention to, and and I I think that people are going to be very surprised very soon, is the system of money. What is money? I mean, it's the center of humans' lives today, right? You want to talk a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_00: 21:39

Yeah, I think I think for most people watching the news, they're hearing about crypto and Bitcoin and people in the states trying to push it. But there's an even deeper thing going on where just this creation of rails for money to move very quickly throughout the world. No, would you say no nostro vostro accounts any longer, no middlemen and just this very fast, very secure system. And the general population is seeing it as crypto crypto, and it's not put in a great light, let's say, you know, at the moment anyway. But uh underneath all that, every day there's huge I keep wanting to say things, not things, huge movements being made, acquisitions being made of huge companies by those that are going to be very much in power and the largest companies in the world in the next five to ten years. And the general population won't they probably won't see it in the way well, they're gonna see it in ways, but you know, thinking about your banking, you're not gonna know, you know, the rails that it runs on. And, you know, that's not gonna be told to you probably. Think about the internet. You use the internet, you don't think about the rails of the internet and like what where the stuff is coming from. It just is there and you're using it. So it's probably not going to change in that way, but you're definitely gonna see a change in dare I say it, digital ID. We see it in the UK right now, huge uproar over that.

SPEAKER_02: 23:37

Vietnam. Yeah, there's and and yeah, it's just and there are countries where people are happily adopting the idea of a digital identification. So these basic systems, like some you know, in a free market society where we all have to buy everything we need and we all have to go somewhere to generate the money that we need to function in that society. And we've been raised to believe that a good citizen gets a job, that a smart citizen gets a good job, that our income is reflective of the quality of person that we are, yeah, that our role is to contribute, to justify our very existence on the planet, is to go out and contribute. These are really big core ideas, and the money system as it exists is, you know, quite simply filled with problems. It's slow, it's expensive, it costs a lot of money for money, and it costs a lot of money to move money, and it costs a lot of money for you to just go to the store and buy stuff. Like, you know, that you go to the store to buy your potatoes, right? There's a lot of money involved in having those potatoes waiting there for you, and then more importantly, moving your money from whatever storehouse you're using to the to the recipient of that money. So think of it as, you know, the one of the things, again, it's an identity. I talk to people, and it's quite common for people saying, No, I don't even carry cash anymore. I don't even bother with cash, I don't have any cash, I don't deal in any cash. And it's very easy to bump into people who say, I only deal in cash. I'm not gonna deal in electronic movement of money. And there's many criticisms of electronic movement of money because it costs money, and other people are making a percentage. You know, when we do hypnosis and somebody pays with a credit card, a percentage of that money goes to the credit card company. And this is just the system of money that we use. And, you know, it costs taxpayers a lot of money for there to be physical money, for there to be cash, right? Um, that cash system has banks and depots, and all those human beings involved in that are all getting paid and printing the stuff, turning, making it and taking care of it because it becomes tattered. We all we all have left our money in our pocket in the washing machine, right? And found ourselves having to go to the bank and replace our torn and broken money for use it more usable money. This is an expensive world. All of the for all of these reasons and and more, there's a movement afoot to turn everything into digital currencies. And they talk about CBDC, central bank digital currencies. Now, for some people, this is oh, yeah, I've I've studied this. This is all old news to me. And for some of you out there listening, it's like, what? Like, what does that mean? And what's that going to do? And those who are attempting to make that shift are very aware of people's resistance to this, and they have their own motives. And I can't say that all the motives are, you know, about the betterment of humankind. I think that some of the motives are really quite personal, quite wealth-oriented, uh, quite control-oriented. So money is going to change, and it's going to change very soon. People don't realize how soon it's going to change. And, you know, for the EU is already moving forward with all of that. Many countries are already establishing digital IDs. In their plan, the digital ID comes first. For other countries, it's the currency that's going to come first. For other countries, it's the way banks are going to interact. And that's where it's going to start, is how the banks and the central banks and the government are going to interact all in blockchain, which is the technology that gave birth to Bitcoin. And now there are literally thousands of cryptocurrencies out there in various forms and various types. And we've just had, you know, you know, we've just spent the last year learning about that and becoming much more aware of how far the system has come and how it really is imminent. And for some people listening, this is the first time they've heard of it. And for some people listening, they've known about this for years, because it has been years that it's been in the planning and in the making. So there you go. There's another shift in our world. You know, we don't need aliens to reveal themselves. We're just going to suddenly find the government has turned money into an electronic device. And there's all kinds of reasons. We won't get into the politics of it, just there's all kinds of reasons to just say, yeah, let's go, and all kinds of reasons to say no way. And people are people's identity is going to be shaken. And so we we think of this, and we think of the the turmoil it's going to create as people's identity. You know, I am a human being, the highest form of intelligent life on the universe. I am, you know, an electronic being. And these these changes to our systems, changes to our reality are going to make us question well, why am I paying my mortgage? Why am I going to church? Why am I getting involved in politics? Why am I listening to the people I'm listening to? to where they don't seem to know what they're talking about. Yeah, we I feel like we're on the verge in our world of some major identity shifts.

SPEAKER_00: 30:12

Yeah. And I hope that you know I hope that people look at their, I want to say maybe their ego and be kind to themselves when they're thinking about their purpose in life. Just a note on another comment we saw somewhere. I've seen it especially recently because there's so much talk about universal basic income and the huge judgment on it, good or bad, whatever. But the comments one one of them stood out and they're all there's so many like this, but that are written like this we can't have universal basic income because people will get lazy and and and then what is their purpose? Right? And that's just so sad. Right? Thinking that the human purpose is just to work for somebody else. And you can probably speak more on this. There have been studies showing that people that have that safety that that money coming in that's like a safe net actually feel really safe to push themselves and be creative and do things and get out there and and even work. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 31:36

But when somebody doesn't have a safety net, depression sets in anyway we could go we could go down that road and I I think that's a political road that maybe we shouldn't touch on but well you know as you start to describe it you start to reveal you know your your opinion of the matter and what I want to point out is your opinion of the matter is going to be based on how you view human beings right everyone's everyone's identity I live in a world and my world is this and I am this kind of person within that world that's those are those fundamental views that get shaken up when somebody says no no no no no we're going to do it this way and your reaction to it good or bad reflects how you make decisions which is based on how you see yourself and the world and these kinds of things can create incredible division if we're all clinging to our view of the world and ourselves and saying I am a good person because I do this and the world should be like that and people should be like this and you're going to find yourself in conflict. And I guess for me what's valuable is to just see that your context your view of yourself your view of the world needs to be more flexible you know anything that humans created will likely be recreated over time sometimes quickly sometimes slowly all we got to do is look at the pyramids and we can say there's something that human beings created that we're only just starting to understand God knows there's all kinds of new stuff out about the pyramids right but that represents humanity from before we really have any kind of history to tell us who built the darn things and why and what they're about and what's there. And that's the kind of thing that's shaking up science as they discover you know as as they do you know ultrasounds of the earth and find out that the structures of the pyramids are on top of enormous structures that go down thousands of meters. And people are going what the heck is down there and that's going to change our view of the pyramids and you know when when all this evidence of other beings in the universe has become common knowledge that's going to change how we view ourselves and our society and where we are in the pecking order of you know intelligences, intelligent beings it's going to shake up our religious order, which are enormous institutions on the planet that have that wield a lot of power and have a lot of say over the way people make their decisions on a day-to-day basis. People are very reliant on their religious leaders. All of these things were on the verge of of some real shakeups and to prepare yourself for that by loosening your grip on what you call who you are.

SPEAKER_01: 35:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 35:09

I think I think now's the right moment to introduce the story and you might want to do your own reading on this in Canada there has been a very famous indigenous writer it's Thomas King is it? What's his name?

SPEAKER_00: 35:26

Thomas King.

SPEAKER_02: 35:27

Thomas King and he just recently found out that the family story of his indigenous background isn't true. And he's he's in his 80s right and so he's lived 80 years having a certain understanding of who he is and what he is and where he comes from and his his cultural background which he embraced and loved and offered a lot to the people of that culture a lot of hope and a lot of pride and a lot of respect because he was a writer and a researcher and a very intelligent human being and he finds out that he doesn't have an indigenous background at this stage in his life and to have built a whole life on that identity to build a whole career on that identity and have it essentially disappear. Yeah who are you now and there are people on all sides of that who are everybody's got an opinion and opinions are like belly buttons everybody's got one and most of them are ugly but everybody's got an opinion on that but for me I think of this gentleman having to reinterpret himself having to reinterpret his life's work having to reinterpret his family this is the kind of identity shakeup that I think we're all in for pretty soon. And so as a hypnotist as a guy who spends his time trying to figure out how we use our mind to create our mind which is the tool that we use to interpret the world and our place within it this is this is very very destabilizing our minds need to be more agile our minds and sense of identity needs to be more open. We are changing our perception of ourselves every day we are changing our perception of our world every day and it's become a political fight where people are against each other based on their politics which are really some of the most well they're some of the most dangerous aspects of our identity because they include a sense of superiority. I'm better than they are and they are the problem. They are the reason that the world is not perfect and that my life isn't what I think it should be, which is based on a whole interpretation of what life should be which is also part of your identity which is going to get shaken up. So I think we're engaged in a fight that doesn't go well, is filled with pain and hurtfulness is bringing us in many respects to the brink of war. And all of that's going to get shakened when we start understanding more about who we are and having to shake off what we've clung to as our identity. And I think these things are going on around us for a reason. And so yeah that's why I said last night let's podcast on this because your identity is a mental construction it's what you've constructed over the course of your life based on things you've been told ideas that you've accepted that may not be accurate and may not be optimal. And that makes us resistant to change and that makes us resistant to each other. And that's why I thought it was a good podcast topic.

SPEAKER_00: 39:12

Well I think it's great. I think it's great I'm going to have to get another coffee in my brain I know that was a pretty out there topic does anyone have any questions good topic. Good topic says chat okay well I think we're going to wrap up we gotta go to the gym.

SPEAKER_02: 39:34

So thanks for joining us we could talk more on this there's so much to talk about we can go down many rabbit holes I think identity is one of the biggest mental constructs that inhibits us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 39:50

Yeah really all right guys we'll see you later thanks for hanging out have a good day