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Coffee With Hilary and Les from State of Mind Hypnosis and Training Centre
Helping 100,000 Minds Find Peace
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We reflect on why our most impactful work teaches people to read emotions as messages, reshape thought habits, and use hypnosis to update the deeper stories that drive behavior. We share our goal to help 100,000 people, the launch of our school, and how to connect with us for questions and AMAs.
• audience across 58 countries and favorite topics
• why spiritual and hypnosis episodes resonate most
• mission to help 100,000 people with practical tools
• emotion as message and how to act on it
• reframes that correct mental bearings daily
• why hypnosis accelerates change at the subconscious level
• moving from one-to-one work to a scalable school
• office hours, AMAs, and ways to interact
• simple practices to stop loops and build calm
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SPEAKER_01:Middle of the day.
SPEAKER_00:A little later than usual.
SPEAKER_01:More than a little.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Six hours later.
SPEAKER_01:We've been trying to go at seven in the morning. And that's been okay, but what's happened, I think, is that we we get up and we're not sure what to talk about.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And this morning that discussion turned into how do we become more interactive? How do we become more responsive? How do we become more helpful for the people who are listening?
SPEAKER_00:We have, you know, a growing community out there. And yeah, we want to uh know what's going on for for you guys.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So it's been two and a half years, 147 episodes. How many different countries?
SPEAKER_00:Many.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. All time. 58 different countries.
SPEAKER_00:Wow, eh.
SPEAKER_01:We've reached people in 58 different countries. And there's a few, of course, that stand out that we've had a lot more listeners in.
SPEAKER_00:Canada.
SPEAKER_01:Portugal and the Ukraine and Greece and Argentina and Myanmar and Panama are at the bottom of the list. They've only had, you know, very few downloads from those countries. On the other hand, you know, Canada represents 40% of our downloads. The United States, 25% of our downloads. You know, I'm dying to go there now. Singapore.
SPEAKER_00:Has a thousand percent downloads.
SPEAKER_01:It's like number three on our list.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We have lots of people in the UK, throughout Europe. Yeah. Up in the north of Europe, Sweden, then Denmark and Norway.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And down on the other end of the earth, Australia. Australia represents a big portion of our downloads. So we have people all around the world listening in, and that makes us happy. There's 147 episodes. Yeah. I guess I shouldn't expect that they all rocked your world. Some are stronger than others. Um when you look at some of the episodes, there's a few episodes that really, really stand out.
SPEAKER_00:Funnily enough, they're the spiritual episodes. Am I right? Ron Borderline. He's on his phone.
SPEAKER_01:It's funny, a minute ago it gave me the ability to sort, and now it doesn't. Let's see. Oh. Well, there's a few that that stood out at the top of the list, and I can't get that list, it appears.
SPEAKER_00:Do you want me to read them off?
SPEAKER_01:Have you sorted them by popularity?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So there's how how did you get there? Oh, I well, I'm not sure because yours is an app, but I went to stats, podcast overview, all time, and then it says top episodes, just down the page a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's um by popular. There we go. Yeah, I think big topics were the life between lives.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm. Most downloaded.
SPEAKER_01:Judgment, guilt, and shame. Second most downloaded. People generally wanting to know what is hypnosis. This is the third most downloaded.
SPEAKER_00:Is it mind control?
SPEAKER_01:The art of self-hypnosis. And then there is sort of a falloff that people were interested in the nighttime mind and they were interested in money. And then we sort of get into sort of an average.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:So that they all sort of tend to have the same amount of popularity. Anyway, the goal, you know, we're re-establishing our goals. I think intentions are such an important thing, and I think that goals are necessary because they guide you. And so we see we we talked recently about a goal of helping a hundred thousand people. That's a big number. I feel like we've helped lots of people. We've had the the blessing, the honor to help lots of people. And a hundred thousand would be a huge number.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I think we're like 10% there already. So we're not too 2%, 2%, not 10%.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe, maybe 2%. Maybe 2% there. So it's really about, you know, how do we help more? How do we be more helpful? What are we trying to do? From from your perspective, tell me what we're trying to, what you're trying to do with this podcast.
SPEAKER_00:I think I'm trying to help people through nugget each podcast. So if somebody can walk away with one little nugget of change or an aha moment, I think that's what I am trying to do. Trying to help them understand that maybe what they're going through is normal. And I do that personally by sharing my own experiences on the podcast. I think, in my opinion, it's it's helpful when people hear that somebody else is going through it, or they can they can resonate with that, maybe, and think, oh, well, if she's working on it, or if she's worked on it, or you know, if that was a past thing for her, maybe I can move through this too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when we created a mission statement for the business, for me it was really important that we talk about learning and teaching, and that learning comes first because yeah, everything that we teach was learned. Everything that we try to teach is a mental experiment that went well.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:An attempt to change the way I think for my own greater happiness, my own greater peace of mind, and then discoveries on that journey and to share those. And so far, you know, with clients and stuff, clients and talks and teachings, we have really had a positive impact on the people that we've connected with, basically sharing what we have learned.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And you know, I we're not sitting here pretending to be all uh gurus, all enlightened and stuff.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Not at all. But we are, I think, unique in that we are in pursuit of that. We we are we're focused on every day trying to understand ourselves and our lives better, understand the way our mind works, how it helps us in some ways, and how it hinders us in other ways, and understanding how that mind gets created and how that mind can interfere with our own happiness. And then we try to share that stuff. We try to help clients with it, and we try to offer it here in the podcast. So the goal is to help as many people as possible learn how to understand and make changes to their own mind, which is the lens through which they experience the world. It's the it's the funnel through which the world comes to them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It comes through your mind, comes through perception, it comes through the interpretation of perception. Those interpretations can be really habitual because the mind is a habit-forming thing.
SPEAKER_00:And I think for many people, if not everybody, at some point in their life, they are under the belief that they can't change their mind, that they're sort of stuck with what's going on in their mind. And I think that comes by people naturally, because like we say, you know, most of our thoughts that we think today are those from yesterday. And so if those thoughts are turning, turning, turning, then if we don't know there's another way or that you can't change it, or there's, you know, the possibility, if you don't know the possibility is there to make incremental changes, you just feel like you're under the thumb of your mind.
SPEAKER_01:And even when you try to change it, sometimes it feels like you can't. Even when you become aware of something that's getting in the way, and you want to think differently, you want to act differently, you want to be different. It's sometimes it feels impossible. And that's, you know, that's where our hypnotism really kicks in. So it's, and we've experienced that ourselves, right? And gone to hypnosis and self-hypnosis and meditation and sort of deep, deep, quiet mind techniques to try to understand ourselves and make changes within ourselves that that are like a program. Once the program changes, the results are always different. And so it's it's really understanding just how much the mind itself and the way we use it is really the problem. It's really the source of all the unhappiness and all the unwanted emotion and all the incredible conflict that we have in ourselves and with others and with the world. You know, so this is, yeah, I mean, that's the goal, right? The goal for us is to understand our own minds and do our best with it. Our goal in our work is to help other people understand their minds and do the best with their mind. Our goal is to help as many people as possible. And we tried to get specific about that. So 100,000 is a big number. And so we created the school because one-on-one in a chair is useful. But I think sometimes when I look at the patterns, right, when I look at the history of my clients and I look at the commonalities, and there are some really strong, strong commonalities for people. I look at those commonalities and I think, well, taking some of that stuff and putting it into sort of pre-packaged meditations and instructions, because that is just so common across the board with my clients, I think there probably isn't a person that can't benefit from that. And so rather than go through the process of bringing you in and going through the interview and going through goal setting and then diving into a program of hypnosis, which is still great. It's still wonderful, it's still very meaningful, it's still part of what we do. Could we put these things together in sort of a pre-recorded form to help everybody? Right?
SPEAKER_00:Well, that's sort of, you know, along the lines of your reframes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's exactly what they're meant to be.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And we've had some great feedback from from the reframe classroom in our school. Yeah. We're just excited to get that off the ground. And we've got 35 people in the school now, and it's just growing a little bit each week, and people are consuming the content and letting us know how it is.
SPEAKER_01:Well, other than mentioning it here, we really haven't promoted it and it needs to be promoted, but I've been reluctant to promote it till I I at least get a level of content on there that I think is meaningful and can be the beginning of somebody's process, and then I can catch up to them. So it's not so much the numbers as it is the desire to be more helpful. And yeah, and I I can't imagine being more helpful without being more interactive.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I I find it necessary. I mean, it's it's nice when somebody says, hey, that was really helpful, thank you. But it's useful when somebody says, Well, I need more of this. Or that didn't deal with that. Or all this is doing is triggering this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Yeah. You know, we we share a lot of reframe ideas on the podcast. And I see that as sort of the the first fundamental step. That's the widest reach. That's us trying to just put some stuff out there every day to help people, you know, as they approach their day. You know, my vision is to that people are sitting there in the morning and thinking about their minds and listening in to the things we we have to say and suggest, and to better understand themselves, if nothing else. If nothing else, you know, engage their day with a better understanding of the why they think what they think, why they feel what they feel, how that comes about. And then, you know, whenever possible, in you know, engage it, slow it down and even stop it, all the stuff that makes you unhappy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I mean you can, you can. It feels like you can't, but there are those those little moments before you, you know, dive off the diving board into the into the emotional turmoil of life sometimes, whatever you're going through in that moment. And there is a moment where you can step back. It is possible. And I think maybe listening to our podcast gives people a little bit of hope that there is a possibility to do that, that there that is possible, even if it's just a little bit, right? It don't don't expect, you know, oh, there's a person in a kayak right out there. I wouldn't expect somebody to be really good at this the first day. I mean, gosh, we've been doing it for a long time and we're still learning and trying and doing our best. But there is that that time in between something happening around you or inside of you, and you feeling an emotion and not getting sucked into the emotion.
SPEAKER_01:Well, just understanding those processes of your mind that guide you there, where the emotion even comes from. Why the emotion arises, why the thought arises. So that goal is that the podcast can be at least on a very broad and superficial level, the beginning of learning and the beginning of reconsidering that you don't have control of your mind. Reconsider that you are the subject of these emotions and start to see yourself as having the opportunity to control that, to be in charge of that, to understand it. And then from there, it's the it's it used to be just our practice reaching out to people and saying, hey, you know, like if you want some help, we're here. And that's been that's been good. It's been a flow, right? Sometimes uh an overwhelming flow, yeah, and sometimes an intermittent flow. And it's been a great learning experience for us as hypnotists. Because, like I said, I find that there are a lot of things that we all are engaged in with our mind that's not helpful. And to learn that and see that it's so common across our world. What would you say you've learned from hypnotizing all these people?
SPEAKER_00:I've learned ways to forgiveness, and that's not just because I was learning about forgiveness last night, but like I I've felt, you know, a change within me when I'm taking clients through recognitions of where we sort of put ourselves sometimes in our mind. And I've learned that we are so much more powerful than we give ourselves credit for, or that we even think we are. Honestly, I keep I go back, and I know this is metaphysical stuff, but I go back to when we're moving energy out of the body, and this energy, we we don't call it energy at first. It's an emotion, it's a feeling in the body, and it's an unhelpful feeling. It's a it's a feeling in your gut, right? You're thinking about something and you feel it in your chest or your throat or your head, and we move it out, and you know, for lack of a better term or word, or maybe I don't know exactly what it is, but I call it energy, and we take that out. They take it out in their mind of their body and they put it out there in front of them, and then suddenly it's dissipated or gone. Like how that's amazing to me, right? That tells me that we are magical, that we are we have these abilities that the the the client is learning, and I'm learning about, and I love to tell the client while they're doing it and afterwards again. You don't need to be in hypnosis to do this, like you can do this at home, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like wouldn't it be an incredible skill? Like for me, I think the impact, this is why I want to do this stuff, to explain to everyone that an emotion is a message, right? It's a message, it's it's it's your mind telling you that something isn't quite right, that there's a certain thing going on here that needs to change. And instead of having an emotion, turning it into a feeling, clinging to it, hanging on to it, hanging on to it for an extended period of time, adding to it with more of the same thoughts and emotions, getting it to the point where it's not, it's not even understandable anymore. And it's just overwhelming, it could be paralyzing, it could be infuriating, it could be completely confusing. And to step back from that, because I just don't think anybody teaches us this, to say this is an emotion, this is the emotion, the emotion has a message. That message is asking me to act, to change some condition. And I need to do that. And when I do that, the emotion and the feeling dissipate. They quite literally dissipate because that's all they're there for. And then let them go, let them flow, let them just be gone. It's not relevant anymore. I understood the message, and so I don't need to hang on to this emotion anymore. I don't need to hang on to this thought loop that I've put myself in because I've broken out of it. And if everybody in the whole wide world was able to interpret their emotions meaningfully and then let them flow, the world itself would be so much more peaceful, right? It's the emotions and the ups and the downs attached to them that disturb our peace. Peace only exists in our mind. And when we can establish peace in our mind, we just act peacefully in the world. And if everybody's out there clearing out their emotions and not hanging on to them, not misinterpreting them, not misinterpreting the circumstances that they find themselves in. And this is where I think reframes really matter. We interpret what's going on around us differently. It's just it has such an enormous internal impact that it changes the external world that we're in. And so, you know, I remember discovering this. I remember, you know, reading for the first time The Secret Language of Feelings. I remember for the first time reading Louise Hayes', you know, book on ailments and dis-ease. And I remember these experiences that really reframed the way I thought of things and the absolute shift in my overall mood, in my overall comfort, in my overall day-to-day calmness. Right. And so for me, like I just want to teach this stuff. I just want to get it out there. I just want people to be able to recognize that for themselves. I just want to do everything I can to help those of us living this human experience to find a way to use their mind to create peace.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And I I believe that I believe that our our platforms, whether it be podcast or school, YouTube, they can face-to-face hypnosis, they can be that catalyst to to help people feel better. And I encourage, I encourage anyone listening, if you've made it this far, to send us an email with a question about, you know, life or what you might want to hear about or learn about.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, send an email, go on our website, go on, go into school, you know, and I I love that old line. I have this friend who seems to be suffering from this, right? I like like just put it out there. What could we possibly talk about that you might find helpful?
SPEAKER_00:I like to, I was saying to Les before we started the podcast, I like to ask my clients, and I would ask you, the listener, if you were to imagine yourself three months out from now, what questions would you need answered to reach that goal of yourself, right? What would you need to know or learn? Or even imagining the the three-month-out self. What does that person look like? What do they feel like internally? What are they thinking? You know, and then we help you through back engineering the process, how to get there, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, to to take that from a different perspective. Imagine yourself five years ago. Just go back five years and and just be there for a while with that old self and notice how much you've changed. You've changed a lot more than you thought you have. The things that are important to you are not the same, the things you're doing with your time are not the same. The people in your life, some have come and gone, and some have evolved themselves. And this creates its own world of conditions that can be positive, can be difficult. In a five-year period, there's a lot more change than we think there is. And I use that analogy, you know, you're setting your bearing and you're heading across the sea. And one degree in my bearing right now doesn't seem to be important. But after three months of traveling, you know, I'm a long way from where I wanted originally to be, because you know, that one degree of difference points me in a direction that takes me hundreds of miles from the spot that I thought I was pointed at. You know, and it's the mind is like that. The mind's processes are like that. They will just knock you off your bearings a little bit, or more importantly, they can keep you constantly correcting towards the bearing that you want. Right. So that even though you get a little bit off course, the bearing can be corrected because you can be aware of the thought habits that you have, the mind processes, programs that are engaged that take you off course a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And over a five-year period, five years from now, you know, we might take the simplest of reframes, right? I am not my thoughts. I am the thinker. I can change my thoughts. And in knowing that truth of that, and then finding yourself possibly hundreds of times a day, saying to yourself, Well, I'm not going to think about that. I want to think about this. Or these thoughts are not helpful. I'm I'm moving on to something more helpful. I don't have to think this way. Right? Just being aware of that multiple times in your day can have the impact of creating a new habit which constantly corrects your bearing, so that you actually find yourself two years from now with a more peaceful mind, with a more in control mind, a better skill at stopping negative thought loops and moving them towards helpful thought loops. And that would be an enormous skill, right? Like having that skill, having the ability to stop a negative thought pattern and learn how to replace it with a positive, like that's gonna, that's gonna pay back the rest of your life, right? And these are the kinds of things that that I think are just it's it's sad that we don't teach this kind of stuff to little kids. It's sad that for most of us, our life gets into a crisis before we start embracing these simple simple ideas. It's frustrating that nobody seems to talk about this stuff. And it it has such a wonderful impact on us. And I, we want to talk about this stuff, want to do everything we can to help you, you know, rein in that incredibly powerful thing called your mind and start really, really using it for your own good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I think, you know, the issue with most of us, including myself, is that we all want the you know, the Amazon Prime mind, like everything, everything we want there the next day, right? Every every good emotion to be suddenly there. And you know, it it takes time, it takes some time, not as much time as you would imagine.
SPEAKER_01:Hypnosis really could speed that up. Oh, yeah. That's the nature of hypnosis. The nature of hypnosis is instead of just being in your conscious mind and thinking, ah, I don't like this, you take the time to get into your subconscious mind and you discover the series of experiences that have created a belief that isn't helpful, that's causing you to make choices that aren't helpful. So then hypnosis is great because we can go right to those experiences. And we can reinterpret them. And we can see what a better thought pattern would be. And because you're in a theta state, and because you're open to change, and because you want the change more than anything else, your subconscious mind can make those shifts. And then from that moment, right? From that moment immediately, you're making different choices. You're interpreting things differently and making different choices accordingly.
SPEAKER_00:And it doesn't seem to be conscious, those choices. What I mean by that is like many clients, including one recently, has come to have come to me and said, you know, I'm just acting differently. And I it's not even a thought to act differently. It just is happening. And yeah, that and then I heard uh a couple days ago they said to me, why isn't this like why isn't this mainstream? Why isn't this something that people are talking about? I don't understand. Anyway, that's a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, it is. It's it's a huge conversation. We can have that conversation if it interests you, right? I think that it's worth talking about that which interests you. Yeah, I've had clients who just say to me, I don't understand it. Like, what happened? I did we I had one client, we didn't even get to hypnosis. Yeah, we didn't even actually have a session. We just had a meeting, and at the end of the meeting, he said to me, Well, I already feel like it's different. And then we never had hypnosis because the problem was gone. I I think that you know, the the the way it can make such a change in your life, you know, I couldn't count the number of men who have said to me, just don't get angry anymore. I just don't get angry anymore. And and the amount of peace that brings them. Because people who get angry don't enjoy being angry. It's not like, oh boy, I get to be angry today.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And you know, this is just coming to me right now. You've worked with people on anger. I've recently worked with, you know, people with anger. Over the years, I've worked with people on anger, but it's recent in my mind, so I'm thinking it now. It is very easy to release the pent-up anger. Like that is even easier than working with anxiety, I feel like. I mean, one session and you've changed your reaction to things.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think we can quickly in hypnosis release emotions.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And when we can spot the trigger of the emotion, the thing, the interpretation, the meaning we're putting on events around us that triggers that emotion, yeah, then we can stop it forever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And so it's it's really that simple. I mean, it doesn't often take multiple sessions. And this is the stuff, you know, that we're we're working on, that I'm working on for the school, is to try to put together, you know, uh short instructions and you know, recorded hypnotic meditations that will move these reframes into place and and make a difference.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And now instead of trying to fit five clients in a day, it's possible to help 500 people in a day who sign up for the school and listen to the recordings. And that's the way we're thinking. But it yeah, but there's a relationship thing, right? There's a the this is a relationship thing. I I don't know that we can know each other's names, but we can be connected because we have a similar goal and we can communicate with each other because knowing that each other is going through similar processes, and knowing that that things can change, and we can be connected, and you can ask questions. And I just wanna I want to be there for your questions, and I want you to ask them, and then we can begin the process through a podcast and a new recording and a new meditation. We can engage the process of helping more people with what is really, really unfortunately common in our world. You know, we all suffer and it's really common, and we can we can be friends and allies working on this together. Yeah, I just really yearn for more connection with all of you out there.
SPEAKER_00:And I think that can happen in many ways through our school. We have we're gonna have office hours. If you go to the calendar and have a look, there's gonna be question and answer group sessions.
SPEAKER_01:I like these AMAs, these ask me anything sessions. I like them. Ask me anything. If I don't have an answer, you you can be absolutely sure I'm gonna go find one.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:That's the way I work. I just like, oh, that's a great question. And I don't have an answer, but I will tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. And if it doesn't go that fast, then we'll find one together. So please reach out and communicate. Send email. We've got a spot on the website where you can send us a comment totally anonymously, but you don't have to be anonymous. I mean, our our emails are there. Send us emails. If I can help, I want to. That's the that's what I think is the purpose of my life is to be helpful. I can't think of a higher calling than to be helpful. And most of us, whatever it is we do, that's what we're trying to be, is be helpful.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I just want to be and send an email, reach out, say Les, you said you talked to anybody. Come on, talk to me. And I would love to. It would be my my blessing.
SPEAKER_00:I love that. People can reach out to both of us and yeah, sign up for the school if you wish.
SPEAKER_01:A big chunk of it is free. There's we're actually changing and re-recording our our introduction videos. But the new introduction video is basically what we talked about today, which is you know, we want to be helpful, we want to help you. So give it a try. There's a whole bunch of free stuff. See if it's helpful. Listen to the podcast. Some of you already are, obviously. Listen to the podcast, try some of the videos, try some of the meditations. If you find it at all helpful, then dive in and let's work together and let's see how much we can accomplish.
SPEAKER_00:Just so you know, if you do join us live, if you ask a question in the chat, we're not going to be calling out your name live. We just say, well, in the chat, it says, you know, the question. So you are anonymous if you want to join. We'd love to have you here. All the information to reach out to us is in the description. Wherever you're listening to this, whether it be YouTube, BuzzSprout, Apple, Spotify, wherever it is, you will find all the links to to reach out to us.
SPEAKER_01:Track us down.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. All right. So have a good day, and we'll see you later.
