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A Simple Guide to Desire, Intention, and Intuition
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We trace how confusion and stress open the door to illness and how reframing, intention, and humor can help the body heal. We break down desire, inspiration, intention, and intuition, and share a simple classroom method to update subconscious stories and make real change stick.
• colds as confusion and mind–body susceptibility
• using laughter, attention shifts, and simple care
• subconscious stories shaping identity and choice
• reframe: the past does not determine the future
• leaving the old self and expecting resistance
• micro-intentions and small morning changes
• desire as calling and contrast
• inspiration chains and no coincidence lens
• intuition as inner guidance distinct from fear
• creative energy as love expressed
• student–teacher mindset for steady growth
• reframe classroom process and meditation pacing
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SPEAKER_01:Yoda, I got a cold.
SPEAKER_00:Me too.
SPEAKER_01:Confusion.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, last night was when you wake up in the night and you can't swallow and it's all go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Confusion. Colds are confusion. We talk about cold and flu season, but it's really they're times of confusion. Everybody gets they talk about getting their September cold. Nah, September's crazy. You're going from summer holidays back to school, back to work, back to all these things. You're trying to reorganize your life, trying to make sure everybody has new clothes, trying to make sure everything's working. It's a it's a state of confusion. And that's when you're susceptible to colds. Yeah. It's not that colds go away. It's not like the virus is suddenly gone. It's always there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But there's a mental and emotional state that makes you susceptible to it. So I guess we're living in confusion.
SPEAKER_00:Having the chat colds, huh? Well, you know what that means.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. We do. We do. And it's sometimes it's a curse, right? Sometimes it's a curse because we have this. We've got Louise Hayes' book sitting on the table all the time. And every ailment, every ache and pain, every existence of dis-ease that go to the book. What does it represent? Not saying don't take your vitamin C. I went out and bought vitamin C. Not saying don't take your vitamins, don't, you know, take an advil or whatever you need, but you can also use your mind at the same time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And, you know, a tool like Louise Hayes' book or Bruce Lipton's books or Lee's Barbone's books, they're all just books that kind of explain the mental emotional aspect that makes us susceptible to disease in its various forms. We all know the power of emotion that gets trapped inside of us. I mean, that's why you're probably listening to this, is because you go through moments in your life where you say to yourself, why did I do that? Why did I say that? Why did I get so upset? Right. And that's that's the power of the subconscious mind holding on to these things for the whole of our lives. And then they express, they come out in our body. Everything, you know, to me, it's just it continues. Everything is an expression of the mind.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Everything, everything is an expression of the mind. Just ask the quantum physicists.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I always find it just amazing. I try to do it with myself too, besides just clients, but even those emotions that you feel in the body, those are an expression of the mind. When I take a client through, literally in their mind, grasping onto energy within their heart or their chest or their leg or their head, wherever, and pulling it out of the body. I just can't even believe every single time that afterwards they can't find the feeling anymore. And they feel like a feather. So yeah, I just it's all an expression humans have known it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, forever. You know, we have this old, old saying, laughter is the best medicine, right? Like, yeah, how many times in your life have you been suffering with some kind of illness, injury, disease, and then something successfully pulls your mind somewhere else, right? Like I think the best thing you can do when you're sick is to watch comedies on TV, right? Put on some comedy movies on Netflix. You can take your holes, your throat lozenges, your your hot toddies, whatever the heck you want to do, right? Whatever, you know, whatever special remedy you have that seems to work for you, you can do all of that. But the thing that makes the biggest difference is to shift your mind.
SPEAKER_00:And another good one, chat says, another good one, the truth will set you free.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, that's that saying by Carl Jung, healing is the act of bringing the unconscious into your conscious awareness, yeah, being aware of your your story. Yeah, I there's I I have uh yeah, I have this ongoing, evolving relationship with the concept of story, right? Ego is the story that we tell ourselves about ourselves. And the trick is not to get trapped in it and not to think that it's permanent, and certainly not to think that it's true. And so I I really believe a lot of times the best thing we can do therapeutically is help you detach yourself from the story you've been telling about yourself for a while. That story has a theme, and that theme has an energy, and that energy stays with you as long as that's the story you tell yourself about yourself. And so I think that there's there's a real value and breaking away from your story. But I also, even from you know, my own personal recent work. Sometimes you gotta bring your story forward to know what story to tell it, to realize that what you're doing is part of a larger story you've been telling yourself about yourself then. And it's not that you bring it forward so you can own it, because that's the problem with it, right? The problem with it is you own that story. I'm the one who has to take all the responsibility in my family, or I'm the one that never gets what they really want. Or, you know, I'm the one that's never been truly appreciated for who I am. You know, all these kinds of negative stories that we tell ourselves about ourselves. We're always the hero of the story. Even when we're losing. But but it's a story. We string together all of our experiences. We're pattern-making beings, right? We string together all our experiences and we turn them into a theme. And that theme starts to become what we look for. That theme we use to justify our refusal to do what we need to do. Our it's a wall that we use, an emotionally charged wall that keeps us from changing our emotions and changing the way we think about ourselves.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And so, yes, there's value in bringing that story forward and seeing the themes that you put on your own interpretation of your life. And then it's really valuable to break free of them and say, you know what? No, that's not my story anymore. It's one of the first reframes I do in hypnosis. When I get a client in who's resistant, they're just resistant. They're just like, I don't know what to do. This is this is just the way my life is, and I just don't like it anymore. And I don't know, right? Just the simple reframe that the past does not determine the future.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The past does not determine the future. That's huge because most people do. They see their past as defining who they are, they see who they are as defining their future. They see the past as a path that has put them right where they are. So obviously, the past has defined the future so far. And they're really, really resistant to that. But what they've forgotten is that they can make other choices.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah. And excuse me. I think Joe Dispenses says it, how it it can be uncomfortable when you start to make those choices, right? It it shifts the body, it shifts the mind into this state of feeling uncomfortable, unbalanced. And so we just like just like a neuron pathway inside the brain that's sort of chiseled out, it's easy to for the car to get back onto that highway, right? That that isn't so easy to traverse and it it's kind of sucking, but it feels comfortable. I'm gonna tell a little story and I hope I can say it well. I was listening to somebody the other day talking about how it's almost like there's some relationships that people have, whether you're a young person or an adult. And when you when you tell the person that you want out of the relationship, some people say, Well, I'm gonna do this if you leave me. Like I'm gonna slash your tire, you know, like I'm gonna go crazy if you leave me. And he said to pretend that you are leaving this version of you, right? Because this version of you will slash your tires to get you back into their flow of life, right? What they think is easy, even though it's crap. And so, you know, it was a little out there, but he's like, you gotta kill off that that version of you and start to feed, feed the new version of you. I don't know. Crazy little story, but yeah, sort of made sense in the moment.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's the simplest thing, right? And it's been said so many times, and every time I hear it, it's just a nice little bell, like a reminder. You can't make the same choices and expect a different outcome. You can't expect change in your life by doing the same things you did yesterday. Yeah, it is as simple as doing something differently. Yeah, and it can be as simple as the time you get up, or you know, the the sequence of events in the morning changing from, you know, brushing your teeth and putting on your clothes and having your coffee to starting with your coffee and then going from there, or you know, doing something completely different, like taking 15 minutes of your morning and meditating for a second.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, the power of intention is so far beyond what we use. Um, we don't most of us get up and are we expect to see what happens today.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, what's gonna happen? What's gonna fall in my laptop?
SPEAKER_01:We know we're going to work, and we know that the work day will start at this time and end at that time, and the rest of it is like, let's see what happens. And that's a life that happens to you. Yeah, when you get up with the intention, and the tent intentions can be small, they can be, they can be big, they can be accomplishments, but they can also be thematic, right? Today, I am not gonna let those guys at work bother me. Today I'm going to enjoy my lunch break, and I'm going to go have this for lunch, because I really like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The tiniest of intentions. I mean, they change our day. Think of those days when you know you're going out for lunch with your workmates. Like that's so common at work for people to say, okay, well, it's payday. Let's all go out for lunch. And how everybody looks forward to that, and how it becomes a really happy, meaningful event, and how we really commit to that because it's it feels so darn good. And I'm not sure that it's the lunch itself that feels good as much as it's the intention followed by the action with that light-hearted hope, awareness, intention to have a good time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Chat in the chat. Growing and evolving is like shedding your skin.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there yeah. It's it's so commonplace in all of the in all of the stories and the poetry and and the music. You know, it's the beauty of the future can't happen without the release of the past. You gotta take stuff out of the garage to fit the brand new car in.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. I remember a yoga session I went to months back. I was in the process, and I think I need to get back into it. I I've forgotten about it. It was so part of my life months ago. Is sort of handing things over to to source God, universe. And I thought, what do I need? So we went to it through a little meditation at the end of yoga, and the intention for that meditation was to hand over to the universe, let something come to you that's meant to be handed over. And for some reason, my the the sign of the business was right there, and it sort of floated up into the light, into the into these big hands taking it. And I I was at first like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, no, no, no. But then I sort of went with it. And it, and as we've seen, it's just been a morphing, it's been a releasing. It's not that we're getting rid of the business, but that we're it's morphing. It's we're allowing something else greater to be in control instead of little me running around trying to, you know, fix everything or or be in control, you know.
SPEAKER_01:I think there's um there's a stew recipe of desire, intention, inspiration. You know, I think trying to balance, well, let's just talk about desire for a second. You know, what you want, what you want. It's it's funny. Desire is a funny thing, you know, because it's hard to tell where where it comes from. Desire arises suddenly in your awareness, whether you bumped into it or you can't even remember when you first started to desire something. Desire is a a personal motivation, it's it's an urge. Would you talk about desire?
SPEAKER_00:I think I think desire is feeling almost like a calling towards something. I think there's a lot of allowing involved, right? Like you can't desire something if you don't allow yourself to desire it.
SPEAKER_01:I think we don't dwell on desires if we have mental constructs that that suggest you're not worthy, you're not entitled, or you're not allowed. You might sometimes re have a desire and say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But where do you think desire itself comes from? Those would be our reactions to to desire, subconscious reactions of desire. Where do you think desire comes from?
SPEAKER_00:I think it comes from maybe wanting something new or a contrast in your life. Something that something that you have already or that you feel already is not going maybe the way you want. So you desire something new, like I desire a new vehicle, you know, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_01:So sometimes desires come out of contrast, preference. I think of my uh I always one of my favorite examples of people is my son Spencer, and how since he was, I don't know, since he was as early as he could have been, he's been interested in pencils and papers and drawing. And now I think most of his artwork is, you know, computer generated. But the the point is that he had a desire to create, he had a desire, and it would just spontaneously was there, and you know, handing him a pad of paper and a pencil, he'd have a great big smile on his face and away he'd go. Or if you buy him a nice pencil or you buy him a nice piece of sketch paper, it was like, oh boy. And he always pursued that desire, right? Today he's a professional artist, and I think that sometimes we just simply have, yeah, a calling.
SPEAKER_00:Kat says a strong in intention.
SPEAKER_01:A strong intention. It's all semantics, I suppose. Uh whether I I use the word intention as a very result thing, but maybe that's a better way to think of it, as that there's something in you. Maybe that's your higher self, right? Maybe your desires flow from the intentions of your higher self.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think they're almost like little Easter eggs at first. And then Yeah, I never thought of it that way. Yeah, they're sort of implanted in our energy field. I think it all almost like um there's this sort of out there idea, which I I strongly believe in because I've really experienced it. So personally I believe in it, but there's this idea that there's this greater consciousness, sort of just imagine this huge consciousness that surrounds the earth. And when we are meant to discover something or create something, or something's meant to happen on this plane of existence, there's these little tiny Easter eggs of that just placed into the con the greater consciousness. And it's like the people, there's some people around the world that get those little Easter eggs because maybe they're open to it or it's part of their plan, right? And whoever moves on it first and carries it through, that's who we hear about, right? Like, yeah, I don't know how to describe it any better than that.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that really leads us to the idea of inspiration, right? I think part of this, this like there's an urge, there's a desire, and then there's it starts to become, I don't know, it uh starts to crystallize a little bit, and it becomes sort of an inspiration, and things come at us from all directions. Yeah, I think I think the first thing I want to say about inspiration before we go into questioning what it is, the first thing I want to say about inspiration is that everybody's inspirations come to them uniquely to them. We were talking about this this morning. Everybody's inspirations come to them in a way that speaks to them. And for me, it's uh almost an experience like a magnet pulling a whole bunch of things together into one spot. Ideas that existed on their own suddenly make sense because this thing pulls them all into one spot, and then you see how they fit together. I I think inspiration. People talk about signs. I received a sign. People talk about, you know, having an idea just come to them that suddenly makes sense in relation to a whole bunch of other things they were thinking about. You know, like that, like I think of that magnet pulling a whole bunch of what would seem like different, unrelated things, pull them together in one spot and say, oh, this all makes sense. You know, inspiration is going to come to you from your own unique places. You know, there are those people who are very, very open to being led and guided, and there are people who are very resistant to it, but still know and can tell you when they are inspired.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:When things have happened that they feel like, oh, I just, you know, it it's almost like something becomes a should. Right. I I, yeah, this is something that I should be pursuing, that I that I should get a hold of, that I should do. You know, inspiration comes in the form of people, you know, it and and the inspiration can come in a chain of events. You know, today I think of my buddy and I give him a call and he says, let's go to lunch, and then we go to lunch, and then we're having lunch and we're talking about something that's got me thinking. And then when I leave lunch, I bump into this store that has this thing in the window, and suddenly the whole thing comes to me. And but for thinking about my friend, I never would have got to there. Sometimes inspiration comes in chains of events. And for me, again, like if somebody wants to be really, really rational and logical, they're going to tell you that you're being ridiculous about your inspiration, right? This is just a chain of events, just coincidence, which when somebody uses the word coincidence to me, I I get kind of riled up. I get kind of riled up because there's no such thing as coincidence, because there's an infinite number of things that could happen.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah. Well, like why that, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like why that one? Yeah. This is not like this is one in ten. This is not like a probability calculation where there's only 52 cards in the deck and you got a one in 52 chance at guessing which one it is. This is like trillions of possibilities, and these three, four events all just seem to line up, right? So I'm a big believer that, first of all, whatever way your inspiration comes to you, you honor it and you don't listen to anybody else.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Because they'll either try to explain it away or they'll try to interpret it for you.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:And although it's not, it doesn't mean you can't share it with people that you love and trust and that you shouldn't listen to what other people say. But what matters is that you trust your internal, well, let's use that word, guidance system.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And I think people struggle with is this my internal guidance system or is this intuition that I'm wrong? It's like we're we're all, how do I say this? We're all intuitive beings until something sounds too good to be true. And it makes me think of we have a we have a friend who I just laugh like every time you know this story well. She needed a car a new car. And she, I can't remember exactly the chain of events, but it was like, oh, well, we have, you know, she mentioned it to me, and I was like, oh, well, we've got a an inn or we know someone, and so let's let's go and you can meet them. And then she was like, hmm, I'm not sure. I I need a sign. And so then she saw, I don't know, a feather or something like that. And she was like, Oh, I should, yeah, I should get the car. But I need another sign. I need it to be like really, and then so then she's driving behind somebody one day, and their license plate says get the car or something crazy like that. It was like, it was like really on point. But then she's like, Well, I don't know, like I need another sign. I need another sign. And anyway, she ended up getting the car, and then while she was there, she's like, I'm gonna put my name in for this draw, the TV that's there. She freaking wins the TV. Like, it's just, it was all so inspired, but we question ourselves, like, like, and we even we question our intuition, and then we go on to question the thoughts against it as if that's intuition. Do you know what I mean? Like, we get caught up in these.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think it's fair to say that inspiration seems to come out of nowhere. Ideas that seemed to come out of nowhere. We could talk another time about where they come from. But the point is that an idea comes to you that is not one that you have often or one that you have ever thought before. But it's important to understand that that's when the subconscious mind kicks in, right? You've got all this programming, right? And you've been taught since you could think not to take chances. You have been taught to be logical. You have taught, been taught to be cautious. You have been taught to dismiss that which sounds crazy, right? So the instant inspiration comes, yes, many of us, our immediate reaction is to dismiss it, to push it away, to say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That that can't be the case. And so see that as separate from the inspiration itself. See your reaction to the inspiration as separate from the inspiration itself. And your reaction to it, see that as a program, see that as a mental construct that has been installed in you. And again, like, don't don't get upset about this. This is this is, you know, my mother taught me to be cautious because she loved me and she cared about me, and she wanted me to be safe always, and she wanted me to avoid certain things, right? And you know, I passed that crap on to my kids. I can think of specific examples. The point is that you have a lots of subconscious program reactions to things, and they're meant to keep you safe. And inspiration often leads you in directions that can feel risky, they can feel unsafe, they can trigger your physical body in unsafety, but separate those two, right? Separate the inspiration from your reaction to it.
SPEAKER_03:And yes, I'm sorry, not to interrupt you.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, I guess I want to move on to understand let's talk about where inspiration comes from. Or is there a question?
SPEAKER_00:Well, not a question. I I think I was talking pretty fast before, so I I can't remember if I said this, but in the chat, creative energy mixed with enthusiasm. Maybe that's where it comes from. This creative energy builds up. Uh because I mean, when you think about inspiration, it's kind of at that those exciting moments. Think about yesterday you're you're listening to the meditation in the reframe classroom. By the way, that's on school now. But you were like, oh, this is actually really good. And now I'm excited to make another one, right? There's that excitement that's inspired, creative energy mixed with that enthusiasm.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I wanna. That's a I think that's a an important point. So I'm gonna sound like I'm losing my mind here, but I spent a lot of time on this. Like, what is create, what is the creative urge? And I'm gonna immediately tell you that that is the nature of love. Love, real love, is expansive and creative. It extends, it reaches out, and it naturally creates. And when people talk about source, they talk about love and that it's the natural tendency of life to expand, it's the natural tendency of life to extend out, and in that extension, it creates along the way. And so I think that's that's a beautiful read that again uh from the chat.
SPEAKER_00:Creative energy mixed with enthusiasm.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's kind of like your love goes out, and as it extends, it bumps into something it likes and just wants more of that. Creative energy. I think your creative energy internally is is truly the expressive form of love. A love of life, a love of being. I just had an eagle fly by. Isn't that nice? And that's your nature. Let's let's let's finish that thought. That is your nature. If source is love, then you are love. In fact, that's very common in many meditations today. Love made me love. It's part of the course in miracles. Love made me love. That's your nature. There's things that get in the way of that. Life is a hard thing, and the world is a scary place sometimes. And being in a body is hard to manage, but your nature is love.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Let's take a one-minute intermission. I'll be right back. I'm just gonna turn off the mic for a second. And we're back. Too much tea. Yeah, I think uh I I've mentioned this to clients before, and I think it was definitely channeled because I had never thought of it before. Before it came through, was just this idea. Like you're saying, like love is creation. And if the base of our existence and all that is around us are, let's say, I don't know, I don't know the exact names. You actually probably do know the atoms, but something that's smaller than the atoms, the quarks and quarks, whatever they are, right? Even down to the strings, the idea of strings. These are blipping in and out of existence so quickly that we we we cannot distinguish through our eyes, through our brain at this level. We just see it as form, we see it as physical, but it is literally blipping in and out of existence so quickly, but we can't tell. But at the base of it all, what I'm getting at is at the base of it all, it is what we call love, because I don't know if there's a better word for it yet. A feeling of complete, complete connection and that everything is okay and that you are held and loved, and it is a feeling that is indisc undescribable, indescribable. I've felt it once, but if that's the case, then I the the love that is creating me is creating this pen in front of me, is creating the book in front of me, is creating my phone, is creating the computer, is creating you, is creating my fish tank, create the table that we're sitting at, the chairs that we're sitting on. Everything is that is that at the at the base level. It just looks different, you know? So yeah, that's my the the collapsing of the field. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Sometimes I wish it were just in my head so I wouldn't have to try to use words. Right? It all makes perfect sense inside my head. I'm I'm there. It's just sometimes it doesn't make its way out of my mouth the way I want it to. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You get it, right? No. Exactly. Oh man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so inspiration. I do believe that we I do believe that we're here for a purpose. I do believe that the purpose is generally learning, but I believe that we are constantly both teachers and students. And I find that reframe with with almost all of my clients is huge, right? We teach what we know by being who we are. And people observe that and people learn from that. And it's not like you're out there being this perfect example of living. You don't need to be. Sometimes, you know, people are learning the easy way, sometimes people are learning the hard way. But either way, people are experiencing and interpreting and figuring things out as they go. And and when I live a life, those that are within my arm's reach are going to always be observing and sometimes learning things that are helpful to them. And some some other times, you know, maybe not so much. We're always teaching and we're always learning. We're always observing others. We're always observing the world. We're always interpreting what's going on around us. And we're always learning, sometimes practical things, and sometimes meaning, meaning to things, and sometimes higher level things without even knowing it. You know, I am a teacher and I am a student always. And my existence is to be a student and be a teacher. And when I stop worrying about what I'm teaching or learning and allow my authentic self to come forward, then there's order in the world. If we were all out there just being our authentic selves, which I think we are most of the time, then all of us would be learning what we need to learn, and all of us would be teaching what we need to teach. But I think that's a great reframe, a great way to look at your life. You know, I was created as a student and a teacher, and that's every moment of my life. So I believe that we are inspired by others. We're inspired by our higher self that sent us here to have this experience. Yeah, I'm quite aware that I have guides, and I'm in the habit now every night. It's been this way for a few months, every night. I just say, hey, make tonight worthwhile. Teach me something. Take my sleep and teach me something that I need to know. And yes, it happens more and more and more that I wake up aware of what I have been taught because I go to sleep with the intention, and maybe that's the segue. I go to sleep with the intention of being taught. So, where does the intention fit in this triangle? Desire, inspiration, and intention.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I've had my inspiration. I am desiring. Intention is now moving the ship, maybe, you know, like in the direction, stating now what you wish. And because you've let go of the story, it's easy to move, easier to move the ship and allow that, which is always flowing towards you, to actually come into your awareness.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe this is that enthusiasm part that uh Barb mentioned. Embracing the desire and the inspiration, loving the desire and the inspiration, wanting to bring the desire and the inspiration to life, deciding that you will bring them to life. Each of these steps, I think, is is significant. And it's almost like you can see how inspiration and desire come together in intention. But each each part of this, it's important to see how you have a subconscious mind that is heavily trained to tell you a story about you that you're going to cling to because you've been telling it to yourself for so long. And you've used it to explain why things sometimes go well, sometimes don't go well. You've used it to explain to yourself why you have certain experiences over and over and over. You use the story as both a sword and a shield, but sometimes the value is recognizing that that just exists in my subconscious mind as a program, as a set of experiences that I'm using most of the time to protect myself.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that sometimes, and I say this to my clients all the time, and when I say it to them, sometimes they just their eyes just bug out of their head. I say, so what you're really doing is protecting yourself from your own happiness. And that's just so true. We use our story, we use our program to protect us, but it often protects us from the happiness that we seek, from the joy that we seek, from the experiences that we yearn for. And so I think it's important to see all of these as arising from a beautiful place inside us desire, inspiration, and intention, and that they will be reacted to by the subconscious mind, by subconscious programming. And I guess that leads us to the idea that, you know, our desires, our inspirations, our intentions are going to run up against our limiting beliefs.
SPEAKER_00:And I think when those are out of the way, it allows a natural energy flow to flow through all three. And when that's flowing, it's like things just fall into place. That person reaches out that can help you, right? You have the desire to feel free and suddenly, like, you know, Barb, she has inspiration to download an app to look after homes. Right. And things just start to fall into place. I think I'm just maybe making crap up.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think I think inspiration then becomes part of intention. Now intention is, you know, I have decided I'm going to follow through with this inspiration. And then we fall back to inspiration as we go along. We recognize the signs. We go with inspiration when our guts are telling us, try this. It might not sound rational, but it works. And so many people tell stories of how they accidentally got the thing that they wanted, how it seemed to come out of nowhere. It seems to be almost the way people tell the story when somebody says, Oh, look what I've got. And yeah, it just seemed to happen because I just sort of decided to do that, and then this happened, and then that came about, and then all of a sudden it was right there. And and I think that people tell so many of those stories. And I guess examining yourself, how many times you've told that story, how many times you've told that story to yourself that says, Look at how I got lucky, or look at how things came together for me. It was almost an accident. In some ways, that allows us to feel more allowing for it to happen, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if we thought that we created it, we might feel guilty. Well, we might feel guilty, but are we scared of being creators in the chat? Mental determination to do whatever it is we want to do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think it's sort of a strange combination of saying, I want to get from here to there while accepting that the pathway is going to be littered with breadcrumb and I've got to follow the breadcrumb. So it's turning back to inspiration and intuition. Maybe a new addition to our triangle is intuition.
SPEAKER_00:I would even go as far to say inspiration and intuition are uh go hand in hand.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna say that inspiration can come, it can be something that comes to us from the outside, and intuition is that which comes from the inside. Inspiration might be something we see that energizes us and gets us moving. And intuition is trusting the internal voice when it speaks to you.
SPEAKER_00:I like that. I'm sorry about the chat.
SPEAKER_01:But you know me, I like words. I like communicate. I like trying to be good at communicating, I like trying to be good at explaining. I like uh I always enjoyed the role of teaching, played a lot of roles in my life, but I enjoyed trying to take what I knew and share it with others in a way that others could receive it and hopefully be excited by it. And had positive experiences doing that. This is a story I tell myself anyway. And yeah, so I like thinking that way.
SPEAKER_00:Do you want to have that lead into just kind of what we're doing at the school in the reframe classroom?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. Do you thought so? So the the school is for me a kind of an exciting idea because of yeah, where I naturally come from. And so the idea of teaching reframes is is exciting to me, right? It plays into my creativity, it plays into my inspiration, it plays into my intuition, becomes a desire to make a difference for people by explaining things.
SPEAKER_00:And a sorry to interrupt, and a reframe, just to for anyone wondering listening to this, what is a weak reframe? In my opinion, it's just taking something that we've thought and thought and thought over and over again about life and just reframing it a little differently to make a deep change at the subconscious mind.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, reframes have been around forever. Anytime you think of things differently, you have reframes. Sometimes reframing comes from learning something new, sometimes reframing comes from realizing something isn't true. Sometimes reframing comes from an experience, and sometimes reframing comes from a book that you read or a movie that you saw. You're, you'll, you'll recognize reframes because you feel a shift inside yourself, like, oh, that's a valuable idea. Reframing in the process of hypnosis is really changing the meaning that we put on experiences. When we when things happen, we put meaning on them. We interpret them. And often we interpret them incorrectly. Often we interpret them with fear and we're protective and we're cautious. Often we interpret them negatively. You know, if somebody says, less you're a goof, I can interpret that as I'm a goof. Oh my God, I'm a goof. I don't know what to do. What's the value of my life if I'm a goof? But I don't think that's a wise way to interpret it. What would be better for me to interpret is, you know, the person who said that to me is having a bad day. They're lashing out, they're attacking because they're having a bad time. They can't know whether or not I'm a goof. And uh and I'd like to think I'm not a goof. And I think none of us are goofs. And so it can't mean that I'm a goof, but it could mean a lot about that, right? Reframing is changing the meaning of things that happen in a way that's helpful and more true, right? And when I use reframes with clients, the ones that really make the big difference are the ones that they can recognize the truth in them consciously and then pass that truth into their subconscious so that their subconscious can use it as part of that fast, reactive part of their nature, that program. So reframes are just really the way that we find our way through the world, trying to figure out the truth and trying to respond to the conditions around us in the most helpful way for ourselves. And a lot of us have those reactive programs, a lot of us, all of us have those reactive programs, and all of us have reactive programs that aren't helpful. They don't guide us towards our greatest and highest happiness. So a reframe takes those core ideas and shifts them to something more truthful and something very meaningful to the way we might live our lives.
SPEAKER_00:So the classroom is it's called reframe. Reframe is super easy. You just click on that if you're if you're coming into the school, you click on the classrooms tab, you go to the reframes, and you know, we've started, Les has started to put teachings in there, meditations.
SPEAKER_01:And if things go the way I hope, there'll be dozens of them in there over the next few months. And I'm trying to approach them on this kind of simple explanation basis, step by step, thing by thing, understanding how your mind works, understanding how events become experiences, and how experiences become beliefs and become the way that we react to our lives rather than respond to opportunity.
SPEAKER_00:So, you know, if you're with us still in the show notes or the description of this audio or video, whichever one you're viewing it as, there will be a link to the school.
SPEAKER_01:The process is easy. Go to the classroom, watch the video, then listen to the meditation. There's the first reframe is up. There's a couple of meditations there, but don't listen to them both. Listen to one, pick the one you want, doesn't matter. Give yourself a few days, and really would love to hear back if you notice anything, if you experience anything, if you feel anything, if you think anything, would really love to know what your reaction is. And then after a couple of days of letting that first one settle in, you know, you could do the whole process again and listen to the second meditation or the the other meditation. And yeah, watch the video again. So the process is that if the conscious mind sees something as making sense, the unconscious mind, the subconscious mind will be open to it. And that's how we get around the critical fact.
SPEAKER_00:But anyway, do they listen to it repeatedly or just once?
SPEAKER_01:You can listen to it as much as you want, but I would listen to it and then give yourself time to see if you observe any effect.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And that might be a day, that might be two days, that might be a week, right? They're they're two different meditations. They both guide you into a similar place. They're both meant to reframe and restructure subconscious programming and just see, listen, wait and see. Then after you have an awareness of what has or hasn't happened, listen to the other one and see what has or hasn't happened.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So thank you for joining us today to talk about desire, intention, inspiration, intuition, all that fun stuff. Every day we're trying to do a live Zoom. So if you sign up for the school, you can have access to the Zoom links. I put them there right as maybe like half an hour before it starts. And yeah, let us know if you have any questions. We'll see you later.
