Coffee With Hilary and Les from State of Mind Hypnosis and Training Centre

Saturday Morning Woo Woo: Chakras, Mind/Body, Respecting Others and Freeing Yourself From Programs

Hilary & Les Season 2 Episode 57

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Ever wondered how chakras might be influencing your daily life without you even realizing it? Join us for a heartfelt and eye-opening chat over coffee, where Les recounts his personal journey from complete ignorance of chakras to their meaningful integration into his practice. Meanwhile, Hilary shares profound insights on how chakras could be the bridge between our physical bodies and souls, especially in moments of dissociation or near-death experiences. Together, we explore how energy flow in our bodies correlates with our overall health and well-being, drawing fascinating connections to quantum physics and vibrations.

Are societal and scientific norms holding back your understanding of the world? We tackle this head-on, discussing the limitations these dogmas impose on accepting unconventional experiences. By introducing the potential of quantum mechanics to explain the intricate relationship between thought, energy, and physical reality, we argue for the value of personal exploration and critical thinking. Moreover, we highlight the influence of corporate interests on scientific research, urging a more open-minded approach as you navigate the complexities of knowledge and discovery.

Do you respect diverse thoughts and ideas, even when they challenge your own beliefs? In our discussion, we emphasize the importance of respecting different perspectives while sharing insights without imposing them. We talk about the fear and misunderstanding that often lead to conflict, and how fostering a culture of mutual respect can stimulate creativity and exploration. Wrapping up, we reflect on the power of critical thinking and self-reflection in embracing growth and advancement. Finally, we invite you to explore how hypnosis might aid your personal journey and encourage you to connect with us for more insights and support. Thank you for joining us; let's continue this journey together.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome and thank you for joining us for Coffee with Hilary and Les. Brought to you by the State of Mind Hypnosis and Training Center located in the heart of the Kawartha Lakes, this is our almost daily community podcast about the mind and how we all might change it in the most simple and helpful ways. Every day we sit staring at the lake and sipping our coffee, chatting about hypnosis and how to make those meaningful adjustments to our state of mind, because nothing's more important than your state of mind. Because nothing's more important than your state of mind.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we're on the line.

Speaker 1:

Awww, a cloudy day. Yep, the walls pretty circling Looking for fish.

Speaker 2:

It's a Saturday today and we are just winging it this morning. Sometimes our best conversations come out of winging it, I think.

Speaker 1:

Well, we have normal conversations, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It always ends up to something weird. Yeah, I'm not sure if people would prefer our planned conversations or these kinds of, I think, planned for like 99% and winging it for the 1%. I was trying to think of things to talk about. I was trying to think of things to talk about. I think about you know, today we're having friends over and of course, you know it's a good thing that we do have friends over because we clean the house those times it's got wonderful side effects, yeah, so what?

Speaker 1:

were you learning yesterday about chakras? Well, I've never really had a conscious awareness of chakras. It's never been something that I related to not because, I agree or disagree or have any strong opinion of.

Speaker 1:

I haven't historically had any sense of them at all being active. But I do relate to the idea of energy flowing from top to bottom, you know, and from bottom to top and there's a connection that you know that the body itself can be like an antenna in terms of absorbing energy. You know it doesn't take much to experience that, just stand in the sunshine for a while, or you know, I know it sounds goofy I like sometimes in the winter going and standing outside in the cold and just experiencing that.

Speaker 1:

So I mean yeah. So I mean yeah, I have every awareness that my physical body is a composition of energies and that energy needs to flow. Everything needs to flow in this existence. Everything needs to come and it needs to go, and I'm aware of that, but I've never really sort of sat down and said, hmm, what's a chakra and what does that mean?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, for me it's been like I learned about chakras. Where did I learn them? I feel like I knew them before doing yoga training. But is that I learned of them back in 2005, 2006? And, yeah, I didn't. I didn't really understand them or think about them too much, and it's only actually in the last, I don't know in the last couple of years that I've started to hear about them more and work with them more, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and I think they're becoming more and more prevalent, in my practice at least.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's been one thing that came up that is sort of right in the front of my brain right now to talk about is now to talk about is this idea of the chakras really tethering our soul to the body, and this might be a little woo-woo out there, but this idea that our soul really clicks in, almost clicking into each chakra down into the body and I noticed this with someone that I worked with that was experiencing some disassociation.

Speaker 2:

When you go through that, it feels as if you're sort of out of the body, a little bit like one foot out, one foot in, and I recognized it as something that my NDE clients go through.

Speaker 2:

And so when the NDE clients come to me they say, well, I died, I came back, I got back into the body.

Speaker 2:

I died, I came back, I got back into the body. But I feel like I've got one foot in, one foot out and I feel like I'll just and I have not me but them popped out and had out of body experiences and it's like they have a hard time controlling when they're in the body and out of the body, body and out of the body. So I noticed that same sort of rhetoric with my clients that have disassociation issues, and so we actually did some work on sending the soul down and locking into the root chakra, whether that be a little bit of soul or a lot of soul, sending that down, locking in and sort of having this yeah, like it just reminds me of like a click, click, click, like seven clicks down into the body and being rooted in the body and feeling into the body from the points of the chakras. I don't know if that makes sense or uh not, but it seemed to help. It seemed to help.

Speaker 1:

I tend to work with people who are experiencing more like restrictions, constrictions, lack of flow, lack of movement, lack of just rhythm. Yeah, flow think they're more the stuff we tend to work with our people who aren't um feeling flow in their body. Things get stuck, things get trapped, they get stuck on things um, they hang on to things um, and to me that that's the, that's the beginning of illness. Right, we hold things, we hold them in a place in our body and, yeah, negative vibration is negative vibration. You know like I'm really comfortable with the idea um, you know that everything is energy, that everything is vibration.

Speaker 1:

That's just the core of quantum physics, right, right. And I'm really comfortable with the idea of, you know, the quantum physics concept of collapsing, that it is the interaction between mind and this space of matter that creates, that, creates reality. Um, that creates that, creates reality, um, and so that, if that applies, as I look outward into the world, that you know that that tree that I'm looking at is there with all its conditions, um, as a result of sort of a collective thought, um, that works the same for my body. And so, if, if I am hanging on to emotions, if I'm hanging on to experiences, if I'm hanging on to to, uh, you know, relationship based, uh, negative thoughts, thought patterns, thought forms, all of this to me makes perfect sense. E equals MC. Squared Matter is just energy slowed right down, and so that, to me, is universal. It's not for some things, it's not for physicists things, it's not for, you know, physicists trying to create a bomb. It's for all of us to know that that's how our physical person, our physical reality comes about. And so I'm very, very, very focused on what's going on in the mind that impacts what we're creating, what we are pushing energy into form. And what is the theme, what is the emotion, what is the vibrational element that goes with that? And so for me, it's always been really easy to see the connection between thought and illness. It's always been really easy to see the connection between thought and illness, and it's been something that I've just really dove into and spent a lot of time with and feel really comfortable with, and also know and have experienced in myself the times I have used my mind to correct illness, illness that was embedded in me, illness that was just starting in me. Yeah, I have an awareness of that. So it's part of those things that I really stress. Working with clients is flowing, things that I really stress. Working with clients is flowing, getting things to move through, allowing things in but then letting it go right back out again.

Speaker 1:

I don't believe that anything stays with us. Naturally. I believe that we hang on to it, that we become, we get ideas. You know it's the way sometimes I think I live, I wake up in the morning and I get some ideas and then I just cling to them all day. Some of them make me feel good and I'm more inclined to cling to them, or some of them make me feel intensely negative and that could cause me to cling to them as I try to understand them. But I think in many ways it's really just best to see yourself as this giant ethereal filter where things are coming and going and passing through. And I try to remind myself and certainly when I work with clients I try to remind them just let it go, let it come, have the experience, then let it go. It means nothing unless you put meaning to it, and it's when you put meaning to it that you'll stimulate those emotions that might cause you to hang on to it.

Speaker 2:

And we even I don't know if you were meaning to allude to it there, but we even pick up other people's stuff, um, as we move throughout this world, um, what is that thing called? Where that? So the heart beats and creates this energetic field around us? I was talking to somebody recently and they knew the name of it and it's escaping me right now, but we have this kind of donut shaped energetic field around us just from our heart beating and the electricity caused by that, and I think you know we have a tendency to well well, I mean, we are electricity moving through an electric world, um, and if you think about everybody having this electric field, um, our interaction with, uh, people, what I'm seeing, what I'm'm reading about, is we tend to have an impact. Even just me sitting across from you, it's like a 1.5 meter outfield of electricity and we have an impact on people around us. That's why I think when somebody walks into a room and you know, you can feel right away whether or not you like this person or you don't like them, or they're scary or something.

Speaker 2:

I think we have the ability to know and understand things at such a deeper level that we're not even it's like we've grown out of in this, you know, industrialized world, um, and we're not as in tune with and I'll just give an out there scenario. I was working with somebody recently where, um, there was, uh, I was working with them psychically and there was something that they had gone through just within the last 24 hours and they had picked up a piece of somebody's energy and was carrying it around, and so we talked about cord cutting after, you know, after work, after a hard day's work, just making sure to cut through and release any energy. That's sort of sticking around in your energy and you don't even have to know that there's anything there. But just having the intention to clear your own energy is important.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, I've certainly had those kinds of experiences, and very much. Well, let me back up and say it this way I think one of the most significant things going on in our world today is that we let too, many other people define for us what we do and don't experience, what we are and aren't experiencing within our own personal I hate the word, but I'll say reality. You know, people are quick to dismiss and they're quick to use phrases. Like you know, I believe in science.

Speaker 1:

And I get frustrated by that and that's my, my issue. But my issue lies in the fact that we want to communicate, we want to share, we want to use our understandings for the benefit of not just ourselves but for others. And when people will, um, just blanketly dismiss other people's experiences, as you know, using silly phrases like unscientific, it frustrates me because it's like closing a door to knowledge. You know, you've heard me say it a million times the only unscientific thing you can do is ignore evidence, and that's what so many scientific people do, is they ignore evidence. People talk about their experiences, people talk about phenomena and then it gets dismissed quickly.

Speaker 1:

For me, there's things that I'm really interested in, that I'm really focused on, like you know, the ideas of quantum mechanics collapsing from the field and entanglements and how we're bound. These concepts, I find, are really meaningful and explain a lot more of what goes on in my experience than old science and such I don't. You know, as we started off talking about chakras, I don't dismiss chakras. They've just not been sort of a relevant understanding to me up to this point. But I wouldn't dismiss them. I wouldn't say to people well, that's not scientific and really what I'm driving at here more than anything else is that my awareness as a hypnotist is that we are programmed.

Speaker 1:

We are programmed with every bit of input that we've ever received, directly and indirectly, and all of that input shapes our view of the world. And that understanding of the world is what shapes what we will experience, what we can experience. If we've decided that all of that is woo-woo crap, then it's just woo-woo crap and we will never experience it. Of that is woo-woo crap, then it's just woo-woo crap and we will never experience it. And when we have experiences that are revealing in these areas, we dismiss them and we think of them, we explain them in the silliest ways to be able to dismiss them. And what I want for everyone is to use your own judgment. Don't listen to me.

Speaker 1:

Don't listen to anybody. Don't let somebody tell you what is or isn't true. Experience what you experience and then explore it. Allow yourself to say, hmm, what would it be like if that was true, if this idea that somebody's just shared with me, if it was actually accurate in some dip, some way, in some dimension and some some degree? What would that mean? What? What would what would my experience become? And so I guess I guess what I'm driving at is that we've got 50, 60 years of really meaningful quantum physics that really explains, or tries to explain, the connection between thought and energy and physicality, and it is offering some really great explanations. So don't be a cherry picker. If you're like you say, I'm into science, right. Don't be a cherry picker and say, well, I like this science because it makes me feel safe and comfortable and this is my safe world, because I only believe in this and this and this. That's no different than anything that a scientific person would criticize and thought.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if that's making sense but my message is you are completely capable of examining and understanding and coming to your own conclusions, and you should not let somebody else define reality for you it reminds me of um.

Speaker 2:

I remember this because of the emotional attachment I had I developed to it. I think it was like a year ago, year and a half ago. I don't know if you remember me kind of freaking out about this when it happened, but I was into something. Something sparked me to look up a journal, like to see if it had been, like to see if it had been researched, and it was kind of in a little bit in the quantum world. I can't remember exactly what it was now, I just remember the emotion and what happened.

Speaker 2:

So I looked it up and there was a journal article on it, as if somebody had researched it. So I went to look at the article and there was a big post right at the top of it saying this article is not available anymore because basically it was peer reviewed, which they do, but scientists didn't like the sound of it, so they kept saying no, no, this isn't it right. So now it wasn't available to read and I was just flabbergasted and I think that's the first time you said to me science, something along the lines of science, will change when old scientists die off kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

That's what they say. Science never changes until old scientists die yeah and they, they cling to their ideas and and to me. You know I'm gonna go on a rant here, but yeah it's. You know, we. We live in a world now and it's worthwhile to step back from it and look at it and ask yourself hmm, is this really a good thing?

Speaker 1:

But there's very little in our world anymore that isn't about profitability. People are out there working science not because they're trying to discover the nature of our reality, but because the theories and ideas that come out of it can be used in the marketplace to make money. And as a result, you know, you've got the funding for research coming from corporations who have a stake in the outcome of that research. I used to teach my students, you know, like people don't realize FedEx invests in teleportation research, because they know that the instant that happens they're out of business. So they don't want to be left behind, they want to be part of it. And so you've got this world. And the big part of our world is the world of mental health and pharmaceuticals. It's a big, big part of our world.

Speaker 1:

You've got them out there, sort of controlling really what kind of research goes on. And when you're a research scientist or a theoretical scientist or you're just somebody out there who's trying to advance ideas in your field, the value of your books, the value of your essays, the value of your research and thus the fundability of your research really relies on your status and your place in a marketplace of research science. So you know, when somebody comes along with an idea that kicks the crap out of what you've spent the last 30 years doing and your dedication is not to the advancement of thought and understanding, but your dedication is to your ego and what you've created and how much your books are worth and how much your are worth and how much research money you'll get next year. If somebody comes along and proves you're wrong, right Then you sit on these journals and you won't let science advance in any way. That's going to hurt you.

Speaker 1:

And it's a shame that we have reached that point where everything's about making money, everything's about ego, everything's about me and my place in the marketplace, and so I have to protect that. And so, although we used to say, well, turn to the journals. The scientific journals are a great place to find meaningful support for ideas. To find meaningful support for ideas Not necessarily anymore right, when somebody comes up with a theory or an idea and some basic data that seems to suggest this is worth investigating further, and somebody else says, hey, I'm the leader in that area. You can't take away my spot, they'll just stifle it, and that's why it requires old scientists to die for science to move forward. And I really put it down to this incredible invasion in all human spaces of the marketplace and making money and big egos. It just it's unfortunate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but again.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to pull it right back and say that doesn't mean you have to buy into it. That doesn't mean that you have to say, okay, well, the system's corrupt, but I'm going to believe in it anyway. You can say no, no, no, I'm going to trust my experience. I'm going to trust what's going on. For me, it's as trustworthy as anything else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, if we go super quantum and think about how we create our own realities or what we want in our realities, I mean we can really cherry pick what we experience. I think about something like, let's say, reiki.

Speaker 2:

Someone gets on the table and has a Reiki session and nothing happens, and then they don't believe in it for the rest of their lives, which they're allowed to do which they're allowed to do which they're allowed to do, and then somebody gets on the table and has an amazing experience in Reiki and they're going to Reiki once a month right for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 1:

Which they're allowed to do.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and I think it is about just creating what you want to create in your life. You know you're allowed to live in your own reality and as long as we're not out there judging other people's realities, right, we can live in our own reality right, we can live in our own reality.

Speaker 1:

Well, and then you know, like that, that sort of takes us to the, to the world of people saying, well, if I can decide what my reality is, then my reality is you know something that most of us would disagree in. Let's just let's just acknowledge that there's people out there saying stuff publicly that some of us would disagree in. Let's just acknowledge that there's people out there saying stuff publicly that some of us consider just crazy. And I balance the idea that you're allowed to think what you want to think with the idea that it's not your place to try to change what other people think. Right, that's the balance. The balance is, if you want the freedom to think ideas that make sense to you based on your experience great. Then at the same time, you don't have the right to take soapboxes and scream and yell and tell everybody that they have to listen to you. You can't have the freedom to think and then take that freedom away from others. It's either an inherent human right to think and accumulate our own experiences and to think and accumulate our own experiences and research and explore that which we're compelled to research and explore, and it doesn't mean you don't put your ideas out there. If you want I mean, that's what books are for, that's what websites are for People can put them out there, but don't get up on a soapbox and start telling other people that they're wrong and that you're the one that's right and the people who think differently from you are evil, like that's where the problem kicks in. The problem kicks in not in the freedom to think, but in the attempt of others to control what others are thinking. There's the problem. So, you know, put stuff out there. If you want to put stuff out there, share your experience. Um, you know, share your thoughts. It's not your place to change anybody's mind. It's your, your place to put out there into the, into the cosmos. You know your loving desires and your inspired insights, but it's not your place to try to control what other people think. And that, yeah, that's the. That's the problem.

Speaker 1:

The problem is this problem, is this this incredibly I don't know, there's a million words for it. It's sad, it's infuriating, it's hurtful. Um, this, this thing that's in humans to make other humans think the way I do, do things the way I do think of life, the way I do think of life the way I do. If everybody would just think like me, the world would be fine. No, if everybody would just leave each other alone. The world would be fine If everybody stopped attacking each other, if everybody stopped hating things they don't understand, then the world would be just fine and exploration would continue and creativity would continue and the people who are curious about this or that would explore this or that.

Speaker 1:

It's really this sad thing that humans have trying to control each other.

Speaker 2:

Really, why do you think we hate things that we don't understand? It's fear, fear.

Speaker 1:

It's fear we hate, what we fear that we don't understand. It's fear, fear. It's fear we hate what we fear.

Speaker 2:

And why wouldn't you?

Speaker 1:

Right, it's just sort of the natural.

Speaker 2:

It's the repulsion that comes from the fear.

Speaker 1:

Keep it away from me. Keep it away from me.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that and then for so many people.

Speaker 1:

they're very comfortable in their world. People get very comfortable in their own thoughts. Even when they're really jumbled up and contradictory and mangled, People get really comfortable in their own thoughts and they don't like things that come in and challenge their thoughts. That's a very human trait To get really comfortable with yourself and comfortable with the idea that you are constantly growing, you are constantly learning I mean I love it, I am.

Speaker 1:

I am so in love with new things, new ideas, even stuff that I don't agree with. I just love new stuff coming in there, somewhere in there. You know, it's stuff that's coming to me, that's going to advance me, that's going to grow me, that's going to reveal new things to me, and so when something comes along and it says, hey, what you think isn't true, what you think doesn't work, what you think um is is inaccurate, incorrect, and then the automatic reaction is well, I'm afraid, if I'm wrong, then you will hate and you will repel and you will attack and if you find yourself attacking.

Speaker 1:

If you find yourself attacking, if you find yourself trying to control others, that's when you should say I'm doing something. That's wrong. This is not advancing life. Hating, controlling and being afraid of ideas and people. Controlling and being afraid of ideas and people that's not promoting life and love and growth and advancement. So when you have those feelings it's okay, that's pretty normal. But back up and say, wait, this is my problem, this is the way I'm interpreting things, this is my fear, right, and that's when you spend that time understanding your emotions. What am I afraid of? What?

Speaker 2:

is it.

Speaker 1:

That could happen. What would it mean about me? Because that's the only time emotions kick in is when we realize that this means something about me and if it would mean something negative, it means something scary and re-examine it. And re-examine your view of yourself. And you know you're a lot more capable. You're a lot stronger than you think you are. Everyone can hear that. Everyone in the world could hear that you're a lot more capable than you think you are. There's a lot more to you than you think there is and you just need to allow it. There you go.

Speaker 2:

There's my rant, sorry okay, I think about how we want to go down the road of talking about critical thinking, making a series about that, and I got it all sitting here in front of me.

Speaker 1:

It's right there waiting for the day that you say let's do it let's do it.

Speaker 2:

I think I need to research it a bit more. Because when I I guess maybe I don't know, I need to research it a bit more. Because when I I guess maybe I don't know, I need to look at my own mind and what I think about critical thinking, and I think I'm a critical thinker. But when I think about looking at everything like what we're talking about, and fear and where does critical thinking play into that? Because if we're just in our own world and we have our own stuff, our own thoughts, feelings, emotions when we look outside of our world, is critical thinking judgment?

Speaker 1:

No, no Critical thinking is examining the information you're getting and trying to determine whether or not it's worth considering further.

Speaker 1:

So you know, you can tell I am adamantly against censorship. I think for myself, when somebody sputters gibberish, I can spot that and I can ignore that. I don't need to shut them down or shut them off or close them down or lock them up or take away them, cancel them. I don't need to do that. I don't need to shut them down or shut them off or close them down or lock them up or take away them, cancel them. I don't need to do that. I can trust my own ability to think.

Speaker 1:

Now, you know, I've got some training in that regard and I've spent a lot of effort in that regard and I encourage others to put a little more effort into it. The more you're capable of trusting your filters, your ability to say, oh, that sounds like a load of bullshit, the more you're able to trust that, the less you're offended or upset about what somebody else says. Right. And so critical thinking and I think you know the first critical thinking tool everybody should embrace is says who Says who. Somebody makes some assertion and you say well, says who.

Speaker 1:

What's that based on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right. Somebody says oh, this is the way the world works, oh, really, okay. Well, what do you base that on? You don't have to take on the idea. Somebody said this is the way the world works. I can listen, costs me nothing. I can listen and I can ask them fill me in, give me, give me what you're talking about, tell me why you think that, tell me where that comes from and I can listen and there might be something.

Speaker 1:

There might be a nice nugget in there that I can grab and go explore. That's why I love carrying around pen and paper with me all the time. Somebody will say something and I'll write it down and later I'll get lost in a two-hour Google session. But the point is is that it costs me nothing to just nod and smile and say, oh, tell me why. And in that process of having somebody explain to you why, you're going to hear subtly behind everything, all of their fears, all of their aspirations, all of their deep buried emotions that they can't quite release, you know. And then you can say well, this is not about me. So when somebody says something and you don't like what they say, ask yourself well, why does this upset me? What part of my world does this really shake up? And maybe it doesn't shake up anything. Maybe this is just about them, maybe this is just their words and they're allowed to spout their words. I'm not going to censor anybody. I don't want to be censored, so I won't censor others. And then I just say says who?

Speaker 1:

When I hear something that I think is a load of hooey, I just say says who Says who? Where does that come from? Who said that? So much of what we think and believe we've just absorbed from millions and millions of sources and we've created a model of our world in our mind and everything bounces off that. So it's like taking a. You know you go out in the yard and you just pick up whatever's lying around Grass and leaves and sticks and stones and old bones from old things and you know dirt and you just sort of cobble it together into something and that's really a lot like how our mind gets constructed. It's just the stuff we've bumped into along the way, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You're grinning.

Speaker 2:

I'm grinning because as you were talking, you said something that sparked this is how the world works. You said and I don't know this is I got a Saturday banter, I guess, but just random it made me think of the answer to the universe and everything 42. Right. And I thought, why would it be 42? And I went down the road of thinking, okay, if someone just randomly heard that and they'd go 42, and then they'd go on Google and look it up and it would be confirmed by all the Googles, right. And then I delved further into my mind and 42 wouldn't rile anybody up. You can. It's like you cannot have a bio like with that, if. If somebody said the answer to the universe and everything is and made a statement right, Made a statement 42 has nothing to do with our ego, right. So it's kind of like I don't know if that was the author's intention.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of a neat way to dodge the question right, yeah, anyway, that's why I was getting yeah, maybe that's the smart thing to do, right?

Speaker 1:

the smart thing to do is just always be aware you can grow and learn by saying to somebody critical thinking says who? Where does that information come from? What do you base that on? Right, you have a strong opinion. What do you base that on?

Speaker 1:

And when I've done that with people, I've got a few people in my life where they, they have very strong opinions on a lot of things, and not me, and I'll and I'll just simply say to them interesting, what do you base that on? And they just freeze like their eyes widen and they're like oh my god, it's like this massive realization. I don't know that I base that on anything, I just feels really good to me and I assert it and I put it out there and I say this is the way it is. But at the same time, sometimes it's, you know, I get a very thoughtful answer All right, well, I've looked at this and I've looked at that. And then I get little nuggets to run away with and explore for myself and advance my own thinking, advance my own thought. But to always hear what everybody says as statements about them, right, even when somebody says to me well, you're an idiot. You're not very scientific.

Speaker 1:

You're a goof Right and all they're saying is that, based on their information, it their opinion that I'm a goof yeah I'm not a goof, it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's not a a thing for them to decide. It's not a classification that I need to take on. Their words are are always reflective of them and their mind, and almost never are they truly reflective of a true, truthful reality. It's it's always a perspective. It's always from what they've been able to perceive and amass within the mucky wilderness of their own mind. We all have a mucky wilderness of their own mind. We all have a mucky wilderness of our mind. That's why the mind is so worth examining and exploring and considering.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, it's never about me, so go ahead, share with me what you base your opinion on, and I don't need to censor you, because I'm a smart person. I can figure things out for my own, and I trust that others will too. I don't need to censor you because I'm a smart person. I can figure things out for my own, and I trust that others will too. I don't need to protect anybody. I'm not the great savior that's going to save the world from thinking stupid things. And if I believe that about myself, I got some really serious issues A real misunderstanding about how the mind works. A real misunderstanding about how the mind works. A real misunderstanding about how the world works, a real misunderstanding about where peace comes from, so when people are like no.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to fix this. I'm going to stop people from thinking wrong things. They're the ones I'm really scared of things. They're the ones I'm really scared of. Well, trust your own mind. There you go. You want a bottom line, you want to reframe for the day. I am smart enough, I am good enough, I am alert enough.

Speaker 2:

I say I'm safe.

Speaker 1:

I am always safe. I can control what goes into my mind. No one threatens me because I can control what goes into my mind. Explore what you want to explore and if you find something that brings you peace, if you find something that brings you understanding and insight, then you embrace it and you milk it for all it's got. And who cares what somebody else thinks? Your goal for your peace and happiness is much more important than anybody else's opinion on whether or not you're doing it right.

Speaker 2:

Alright, that was good. Right, all right, that was good.

Speaker 1:

Well, saturday morning, this is the stuff that yeah this is the way we spend our mornings and we turned it into a podcast and maybe we're being too structured, I don't know. This was Hillary's idea today, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's my fault if people don't like it.

Speaker 1:

Or my. What I was going to say was so if you thought this was good, then you reach out to Hillary and tell her good idea.

Speaker 2:

Hillary. Yeah, okay, I'll see you later. We hope you enjoyed today's podcast and that maybe it helped even a little. I hope you enjoyed today's podcast and that maybe it helped even a little. If you have any questions, we would love you to send them along in an email to info at psalmhypnosiscom. Thank you for being part of the State of Mind community. For more information about hypnosis and the various online or in-person services we provide, please visit our website, wwwsomhypnosiscom. The link will be in the notes below. While you are there, why don't you book a free one-hour journey meeting with Hilary or Les to learn more about what hypnosis is and how you might use it to make your life what you want it to be? Bye for now. Talk to you tomorrow, thank you.

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